Arizona or Las vegas

If you want to see what would happen in Phoenix if a larger park was built there, go to this topic... http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=40545

I just read through that whole topic, and couldn't help but think the same thing would happen in Phoenix. Jazzland lost MILLIONS by opening a park where the peeps didn't come, and SFNO's days are numbered.

Doesn't this magic city just sound like a rip off of Legend City?

And I know that he provided the links, but when I went to the site is does not tell me how Lord Gonchar found them. I guess they must have forgot to post that. Also it seems that they are just waiting for people to invest, and I think that if you buy 1,000 shares, you get a free calculator. Yea! Where do they come up with this stuff?

How did I find it?

I looked. :)

A woodie in Pheonix can have a steel support structure. If not a woodie how about a hyper? Something with airtime!

In response to Soggy,

I read the thread, and I partly agree. But I also know that a park much depends on the people who run the park. This magic city, sounds like what happened in NO is very possible. It just doesn't sound like that great of a park. I am sure that if the people of ARizona were to get a park, it would be packed at first, but if it was run improperly, or the rides weren't great enough, eventually people would still drive the extra time to SFMM. But if someone who had a dream, a great theme, and the right people to run the place, then things could be different. I just don't think that the park this magic City wants to build will be good enough to keep busy. When I hear magic city, it doesn't exactly make me jump out of my seat and want to go. It would just have to be right. The person who would build the right type of park, would have to have a love for it, and not just care about getting rich quick. I think alot of SF parks have been that way, even Disney has headed down that road a little. Hopefully Disney will pull themselves out of it beforeit is too late for them. You can definantely tell the difference in management, by the cleanliness of a park alone. Disney vs. SF huge difference in atmousphere, and I know that the rides are way different at each, but don't you think it is possible to mix the two together to get a perfect park?

Why would anyone in their right mind invest money in a business without caring about getting rich quick? Beside your own impossible-to-get-through delusions, anyone with that kind of money to invest does not do it "for the love of amusement parks" or anything ridiculous like that. They do it because they can make money. Maybe Walt Disney could convince 90% of the public that he was doing it for "the love of amusement parks" but in what, 50 some-odd years he has created one of the biggest, scariest corporate monsters (read: get rich quick money maker) of all time.

So quick answer, no it's not possible. Money has, does and will always be #1.

Well you can go ahead and live thinking that money is what really makes people happy, but there are people out there including myself that believe there is something better in life, than just getting rich quick. Of course it is nice to have money, but it is such a better feeling when you know that you have changed someones life for the better. No matter how delusional that sounds, it is true, unless of course you have no heart.

I never said money is what makes people happy, I said that if someone is going to invest millions, it's not to create something "for the love of amusement parks", it's to make those millions into multi-millions. You keep trying to pitch to some venture capitalist that he should piddle away his money on an uncertain business proposition because "it's a nice thing to do".

Of couse if someone wants investors to invest, they must show them all the material needed to convince them that the oprotunity will benefit them. Concept drawings/business plan. If investors are there only for the money, you have to prove to them that you will be worth their time. But there have been many cases where people morgaged their own houses so that they could follow their dream, and many of those people are some of the most succesful people of today. You just have to put your mind to something and accomplish all the things that need to be done, so that your dreams come true. If you haven't already found what you want out of life I wish you the best. It's all about hard work.

It's the feel good hit of the summer!

A ragtag group of amusement park fans take out second mortgages on their homes and through hard work, preserverance and a liberal sprinkling of hilarity create the hottest (pun intended) theme park Phoenix has ever seen.

But when the evil Mr. Bigglesworth threatens their burgeoning enterprise by proposing yet another evil strip mall, what will these madcap investors do to keeps sunny days ahead?

Seth Green and Hulk Hogan star in "Atlantis Rises...in Phoenix!?"

:)

Lord Gonchar

You are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm trying to find investors to finance the movie if you're interested.

I know a few people with some used rides and some land in North Carolina or possibly Indiana that might be willing to help ...

Add in a little CG animation, and you'd lessen the budget considerably. Add in that badnitrus has a bunch of already-built models of coasters, and you're halfway there. :)

If you need a voice actor, I'll volunteer my services! (and no, I'm not a professional voice actor :) )

Looks like this thread is dead, but I thought I would throw out a few points about Phoenix since that is what this topic was originally about:

Castles and Coasters is basically a fancy family fun center. Rawhide is a western ghost town that just sold its precious Scottsdale land, and may move the whole place to an Indian reservation by my house.

The population of Phoenix can more than support a large theme/amusement park, but would have to figure out some ways to deal with the heat.

Although I grew up in California, I moved my family to San Antonio, TX for 3 years ('95-'98). It's half the size of Phoenix, but easily supported Six Flags Fiesta Texas and SeaWorld. It's hot there too, and those parks survive by having water parks and catering to season ticket holders.

When we were getting ready to move to Phoenix in '98, my neighbor in San Antonio (he was the 2nd in command at Six Flags) told me how they tried to strike a deal to create a park in Phoenix with the Indian Reservations. The deal fell through, because the reservations require 40+ chiefs to vote on everything. They couldn't make up their minds, and this kind of freaked the Six Flags people out anyway.

Over the last 5 years, the reservations seem to be entering into many deals with outside companies. Wouldn't surprise me if they thought about opening a park again.

We can only hope. - HamsterBoy's Dad

Phoenix definately could use a large amusement park. I believe that it is the sixth largest city in the united states (NYC,LA,Chicago,houston,philadelphia are bigger) and it has the capability to have year round operation. Not everyone their is old and retired, and it is a tourist destination for many people. You have the grand canyon which i understand is quite a distance from phoenix, but many go to scotsdale and sedona to those resorts for golf or what have you.

Also people regarding phoenix as a bad place, i will take a phoenix summer over a cleveland winter anyday!!