Anything new at kings island this year?

Friday, March 21, 2008 12:19 PM
One would think that a new flying roller coaster would count as a change for the park. Did they have one hidden somewhere before Firehawk that I was unaware of?

-Nate

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Friday, March 21, 2008 12:32 PM
No Nate but it wasn't exactly new to me. It did impact the GP tho and thats what matters.
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Friday, March 21, 2008 5:26 PM
a_hoffman50's avatar That ride is new to me and most of the GP probably do not even realize that it is a six-year-old ride. So, I really am having a hard time following your logic, Chuck.

Oh wait... it is March. I should not expect good logic this time of year. ;)

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Friday, March 21, 2008 9:43 PM
Guess you didn't read my last post right then huh?
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Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:21 AM
a_hoffman50's avatar

It is about something, ANYTHING to make the park NOT THE SAME DAMN THING it was last year and the year before and the thirty years before that.

Followed by:


It did impact the GP tho and thats what matters.

Am I missing something or are you talking out of both sides of your mouth? Not trying to pick on you, just trying to follow logic (often times this is my downfall).

*** Edited 3/22/2008 3:24:06 PM UTC by a_hoffman50***

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:48 PM
Pagoda Gift Shop's avatar I can only imagine what threads like this will be like next year if a hyper isn't being assembled.

How come CP got Skyscraper? ;)

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:55 PM
Soggy's avatar

Charles Nungester said:
Don't get me wrong but KI gets three times the attendance as Knotts gets and Knotts has gotten several things, This will be CF's third season at KI and we have one.

Check your figures, Chuck.... http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/200803/649/ Unless I read the article wrong, Knott's has higher attendance than either KI or CP. Location, location, location, ya' know? *** Edited 3/22/2008 8:56:36 PM UTC by Soggy***


Pass da' sizzrup, bro!

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:11 PM
^^Why? They put in a coaster last year! Personally, my expectation for a major park is to put in a major new attraction every other year, so the fact they aren't doing anything this year is ok with me.

2020 Trips: Canceled by Corona

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:21 PM
eightdotthree's avatar Soggy, the numbers show that Knott's only out drew CP and KI by a small margin. For a park that is open year round that is pretty sad.
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Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:42 PM

Charles Nungester said:


Don't get me wrong but KI gets three times the attendance as Knotts gets and Knotts has gotten several things, This will be CF's third season at KI and we have one.

KI has beaten and runs close to CP in Attendance. They now have a resort and CP has added three 20 million dollar plus coasters amongst other things in the last six years.


"Kings Island gets three times the attendance as Knott's"?

In 2007, Knott's pulled in 3,630,000 visitors --- ranking it in #13 on the list of the most attended amusement parks in North America.

By comparison, Kings Island placed #17 on the list with 3,050,000 guests.

So...what I'd like to know is what exactly you meant by "Kings Island gets three times the attendance as Knott's." Because Knott's brought in more than half a million guests than Kings Island.

Please don't bring up the "Kings Island is seasonal and Knott's is year round" because that's not really relevant. You were just talking straight annual attendance numbers.

And as Jazma mentioned, Knott's is in a much more competitive marketplace, competing with every major theme park operator within 100 miles. Six Flags, Universal, Anheuser Busch, Legoland and Disney are all within a one-and-a-half hour drive from Knott's. That's as concentrated as it gets when it comes to competition.

Plus, it's a full-fledged amusement park resort just like Cedar Point. Knott's has a much higher revenue flow than Kings Island as it also has a separately-gated water park, resort hotel, and its own shopping district (California Marketplace).

Looks like Mr. Nungester here needs to do a little homework first before going on a complaint rampage. :)

www.inparkmagazine.com/2007report.pdf


eightdotthree said:
Soggy, the numbers show that Knott's only out drew CP and KI by a small margin. For a park that is open year round that is pretty sad.

How is 630,000 by a small margin? Granted, Universal Studios Hollywood (also year round) did bring in 4,700,000 guests which is a significantly greater amount than Knott's, there seems to be a general wider appeal to all demographics with worldwide brands such as Universal and Disney.

Seasonal or year round, Knott's still is Cedar Fair's highest attended park and second in overall annual gross revenue. That's the bottom line...we could argue back and forth trying to determine how much more attendance Kings Island could get if it were year-round, but quite frankly that's not the point.

*** Edited 3/22/2008 10:57:32 PM UTC by kRaXLeRidAh***

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:45 PM
Soggy's avatar Well, Nungester suggested that KI outdraws Knotts by a factor of three, and that is in fact, inaccurate. I never said that KBF is better or more deserving of capitol investment, just stating facts.

Pass da' sizzrup, bro!

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Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:17 PM
eightdotthree's avatar Ah, yes your right. I didn't see the context that was posted in.
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Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:35 PM
Pagoda Gift Shop's avatar

Touchdown said:
^^Why? They put in a coaster last year! Personally, my expectation for a major park is to put in a major new attraction every other year, so the fact they aren't doing anything this year is ok with me.

I agree completely. I said what I said because enthusiast/fanboy expectations are already through the roof for a new hyper next year. People get edgy when a park seemingly does nothing for one year. How about they do nothing or very little when they were "supposed" to be adding some great new ride next year? Riots in the streets!!!11

Allow me to summarize what we know is happening this year:

1) Cinnabon. (I hope the marketing folks put this on the front of the maps)

2) Lots of new shows including 2 new country shows in Festhaus.

3) recaR will go forwards. (per corporate execs cries of "unsafe!")

4) Spongebob will get the boot from the motion theatre. He will be replaced by some generic 3-D movie, or the building will be used as restrooms. Either way, only 1 side will operate.

5) Maybe some more new trashcans.

6) Tomb Raider and Italian Job will lose more theming than they normally lose each year (ha ha). Both will begin to more closely resemble fair rides.

Hehe, all in good fun! ;)

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