I don't get why everyone *****es about this park. My goodness, just becuase it dosn't have any Beemers does not mean it is a crummy park. I think all parks have hope. It isn't like Six Flags doesn't think about this place. Also, why would Six Flags buy it if it no hope?
The park was moved there a few years back before 6 flags took over. 6 flags has added Tower of Doom, Mind Eraser and Boomerang But I don't think they will be adding anything big to this park. Space is tight and it has a small market compared to other 6 flags parks. I think if they did add something people would come but it works the other way around your park needs to have a lot of people coming to it get big stuff built
First, if they put more money and time into their landscaping, they could truthfully call it Elitch GARDENS. It's sad that there isn't a lot of space to expand around there, and I'm sure Six Flags wouldn't move the entire park somewhere where there was, so I believe that they will have to do what other parks like Morey's Piers and Indiana Beach have to do; use ingenuity to fit rides in.
Of course, cramming many rides into a little space isn't that beautiful to most people (leaves little room for places like trees and stuff), so I think from this point on, whatever Six Flags puts into this park should be of quality. I don't see this park getting a big ride (like a coaster) every two or three years because I bet the GP is just happy with what is there already. But as with any park I would like to see them get something of high quality (like a GCI dualing coaster and/or a sit-down looping coaster). That alone, along with great service and good landscaping would enhance SFEG by 150%.
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I don't understand Six Flags' philosophy either. The world has known that if you build it, they WILL come, no matter where it is, ever since the earliest days of the roller coaster! And yet so many people INSIST that it's perfectly reasonable and understandable why parks like SFEG, SFKK, and SFAW don't get new rides and record breakers all the time, while Magic Mountain, Cedar Point, SFGA, etc, get something new and revolutionary every single year. I say HOGWASH! Stop spoiling the tourist traps to filth, and go back to Angus Wynne's philosophy: Build the world's coolest rides in ORDINARY people's back yards, instead of just in the playgrounds of the rich and famous! The whole Six Flags empire BEGAN in Arlington, Texas, of all places, and look at it now! You simply CAN'T convince me that a 7 inversion coaster or a 4th dimension or a flying dutchman or WHATEVER wouldn't make just as much money for a park like SFAW as it does for parks like SFMM! And yet, as you say, the "experts" claim that it's all based on attendance. Well, HELLO, if a park has poor attendance, it NEEDS a new and revolutionary attraction to give the people a reason to come back! If you play Roller Coaster Tycoon at all, you know EXACTLY how that works, and yet some people insist that the real world works differently? BALONEY! If a park already has more than a dozen record breakers, first-of-its- kinds, and one-of-a-kinds, the LAST thing that it NEEDS is yet another variation on the trend! (Sorry Magic Mountain, but what you NEED is more flat rides, and most people who live near that park agree!) It sure is strange how AstroWorld was one of the top amusement parks in the world BEFORE Six Flags bought it, with rides like the Texas Cyclone, XLR-8, and Thunder River, just to name a few of our most famous firsts and originals, and since it was purchased by Six Flags? NADA. It's one of the WORST amusement parks in the world, and most people agree! Nothing but used rides, clones, and OLD technology, meanwhile Magic Mountain has risen from being a simple little mom-and-pop park with only 3 coasters in it to being "the crown jewel of all the Six Flags parks". Now you tell me where's the JUSTICE in that? Six Flags plays favorites, and Magic Mountain is their FAVORITE, that's all there is to it. It has nothing to do with money, economics, politics, population density, or competition. Magic Mountain gets the best of the best because Six Flags corporate WANTS it to have the best of the best. SFEG, SFKK, and SFAW get neglected because Six Flags WANTS to neglect them. It's as simple as that!
You know, I hate bytchin' and moanin' as much as the next man, but it really *irritates* me when the b&m (no puns intended) is based on fluff not fact.
Yo' ID: AW was bought by Six Flags in 1975. XLR8 was made in 1984. And Texas Cyclone, which *is* a CI-clone was made in 1976. Again, after Six Flags bought it.
Though I have the feeling that you mean under the current management. Well whether you like it or not, the only real reason to build rides is due to competition. That's why SFWoA, SFGAdv, and SFMM get the rides; they need them to compete with CP, Hershey/Dorney/Jersey Shores, and Disney respectively. Spending millionsof dollars in these places might get guests to pick an SF park than the others.
But why spend in Houston or Denver. They pretty much have a captive audience there. The people in those areas dont have much of a choice in theme parks, unless they want to spend ooh-gobs of money on travel. Besides, how many more people are they going to attract. It is well settled that aside from FL/Cali, the percentage of non-locals at parks is very small. So where is the ROI (yes CF isn't the only firm that has this in mind *glares*)
The only really anomally to this is SFGAm. There only "major" competition comes from the Wisconsin Dells area. Many people there *know* about CP and PKI, but not to the point of ruling out SFGAm visits. I have no idea why SF plunked down two coasters there this year (aside from capacity concerns). But in any case, they must believe that there is untapped growth potential there. Potential that is not found in Houston or Denver.
Besides, my home park has nothing but coasters that can be found elsewhere: S:ROS - S:ROS @ SFDL ROAR - ROAR @ SFMW Batwing - X-Flight @ SFWoA JJ - Poltergeist @ SFFT ME - any SLC TF - any invertigo but you wont hear me say a single bad thing about clones :) lata, jeremy --Welcome to Life!....Sucks doesn't it?
"The only really anomally to this is SFGAm. There only "major" competition comes from the Wisconsin Dells area. Many people there *know* about CP and PKI, but not to the point of ruling out SFGAm visits. I have no idea why SF plunked down two coasters there this year (aside from capacity)"
SFGAm is not really an anomally. It is not about competition, but market size. The Chicago-Milwaukee,NW Indiana market is over 10,000,000. Only NY and LA are larger. That is why SFGAm, along w/SFMM and SFGAd get the most attention from SF. It is a dollar and cents issue.
*** This post was edited by Riverview Mike on 6/6/2001. ***