Any action at the Arrow booth @ the IAAPA booth?

Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:48 PM
Just wondering if anyone has been to the IAAPA this year? If so, if any rumors or comfimration about Arrow. I'd really like to see if Arrow has any new protoypes or made a deal. I'd really like to see another 4D somewhere.
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Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:51 PM
I was at the S&S booth, and they didn't have any signs of Arrow at all. It only said S&S. They also had pictures of Drachen Fire and GASM, as well as X, with no signs anywhere saying Arrow. I guess they decided to drop the name? And I guess when they purchased them, they purchased rides that were already made?
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Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:17 PM
No deals are going to take place at the booth, and no one is going to say what they bought, so it's impossible to say. *** Edited 11/21/2003 4:17:55 AM UTC by Peabody***
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Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:22 PM

Turbo said:
I was at the S&S booth, and they didn't have any signs of Arrow at all. It only said S&S. They also had pictures of Drachen Fire and GASM, as well as X, with no signs anywhere saying Arrow. I guess they decided to drop the name? And I guess when they purchased them, they purchased rides that were already made?

And no Tennessee Tornado? Gosh, that's their most impressive looping coaster yet....

EDIT: Thanks for the SP tip, Swoosh :) *** Edited 11/21/2003 5:14:11 AM UTC by Dukeis#1***

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Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:35 PM
It's "their" not "there" Dukeis.

And I have to disagree, one of their most impressive (looking) coasters is coming down right now at WOF. Tennessee Tornado is nothing more than a doped up corkscrew coaster.

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Friday, November 21, 2003 12:40 AM
While I don't want to throw off the subject of this topic, I have to disagree. TT features a 105-foot tall B&M-ish Spiro Loop, a regular Vertical Loop, and the ass end of a Butterfly or Boomerang element, along with two overly-banked curves and a sideways twist, which I don't think they actually named. Along with the 62mph the ride achieves, I would consider it much more of a shorter Shockwave/GASM wrather than a "doped up" Corkscrew, without the headbanging or bad transitions that haunts most Arrow loopers. I was just saying that I thought it would have been something for S&S/Arrow to advertise with, considering it was very B&M like in terms of quality. But, of course, the sit-down looper market was tapped by the late-80s, so I doubt anyone would have been impressed by it that much.

I Also consider The Loch Ness Monster, which came around in the same time period as OE, one of Arrow's best creations ever. And while I've never rode OE, if it was anywhere near the amazing smoothness of the 25 year old LNM, I'm sure I would have liked it very much as well.;)

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Friday, November 21, 2003 5:03 AM
.. and not to be picky but when S&S purchased Arrow. THey purchased the plans to thier projects. The individual parks "own" the exsiting rides. Not Arrow.. *** Edited 11/21/2003 10:04:15 AM UTC by Red Garter Rob***
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Friday, November 21, 2003 9:30 AM

Swoosh said:
Tennessee Tornado is nothing more than a doped up corkscrew coaster.
Must be some good dope.

Quite the interesting comparison, I must say. Couldn't the same be said for all Arrow loopers? GASM? Drachen Fire?

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Friday, November 21, 2003 11:39 AM
TT is nothing like a corkscrew. You could slap any corkscrew anywhere. TT is designed just for the land it occupies, and almost all of its elements have something unique about them.
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Friday, November 21, 2003 12:35 PM

Swoosh said:
It's "their" not "there" Dukeis.

Its a good thing you corrected that. Most of us would not have been able to tell what he was talking about.

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Friday, November 21, 2003 12:37 PM
So as long as you can tell what's being said, there's no point in correct grammar or spelling?

It's attitudes like that that led to stuff like "ololo!! ne1 giong 2 teh party 2nite???? omg wtf!!!1"

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Friday, November 21, 2003 12:53 PM
There is absolutely no comparison between the standard "Corkscrews" to TT. That's rediculous. As well, although Orient Express was a nice looking coaster, it was rough as hell!
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Friday, November 21, 2003 10:45 PM
While OE looked good, it's TT's visuals and advanced performance that Dukeis#1 refers to. It's a shame that so many have never experienced it, and that it's taking a GCI to get people to that park (which is not a slam, just a fact).TT does things that no other Arrow has done. Too bad it was the last sitdown and that it came so much later than the "looper boom" that it was pretty much skipped over. And it's a relatively short ride, but I know a lot of short coasters that deliver a better ride than longer, drawn out layouts. The park's location doesn't help either! It's a long way from us Ohio folks.....

I think a lot of DW first-timers will go there excited about Thunderhead, and come away thinking "Hot #&@%! There are two really, really good rides here.....plus all the great shows, family rides, shops, and that magnificent steam train. Why didn't I visit before?" All I can say is that it's already worth the $35. 2004 will be that much sweeter.

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Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:54 PM
You hit the nail on the head, Arrow Guy, particularly about Dollywood.

If only Arrow had actually developed TT technology back when sit-downs were the way to go. Unfortunatly, it seems it was the last chance that came far to late.

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Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:03 PM

Arrow Guy said:The park's location doesn't help either! It's a long way from us Ohio folks.....

Well, that could be a good thing. After all, the world doesn't revolve around Ohio.
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Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:53 PM
IAAPA has exactly nothing to do with the marketing plans of parks, who operate on a schedule that has nothing to do with a trade show, and as such John Q. Parkguest could care less about it.

Just ask Huss... I'm sure they would've loved to talk about Tomb Raider that year.

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Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:17 PM

Dukeis#1 said:
I Also consider The Loch Ness Monster, which came around in the same time period as OE, one of Arrow's best creations ever. And while I've never rode OE, if it was anywhere near the amazing smoothness of the 25 year old LNM, I'm sure I would have liked it very much as well.;)

It wasn't. I rode both this year. Loch Ness Monster was possibly the smoothest Arrow coaster I've ridden. OE, on the other hand, was painful.

Cheers,
Richard

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Monday, November 24, 2003 12:15 AM


So as long as you can tell what's being said, there's no point in correct grammar or spelling?

Pet peeve, you try living with an english teacher for 18 years and I'm sure you'd be the same way.


Must be some good dope.
Quite the interesting comparison, I must say. Couldn't the same be said for all Arrow loopers? GASM? Drachen Fire?

I'm going by the loops on the coaster. True that the actual ride is longer than a regular corkscrew, but think about how the loops look and you might be able to see where I am coming from -- or then again maybe not.


Although Orient Express was a nice looking coaster, it was rough as hell!

Yes I agree, it was beautiful to look at.


After all, the world doesn't revolve around Ohio.

Gasp! You mean it doesn't - yes that is correct, and it especially doesn't revolve around Ohio when they loose to Michigan!
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Monday, November 24, 2003 1:36 AM
Swoosh said:


I'm going by the loops on the coaster. True that the actual ride is longer than a regular corkscrew, but think about how the loops look and you might be able to see where I am coming from -- or then again maybe not.


The last element has half of a mutated Corkscrew, but that's about it. I Guess you could say that there all spawned from the Corkscrew, if that's what you mean.

Spiro Loop

Vertical Loop

Loop/Corkscrew or Butterfly Wing

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Monday, November 24, 2003 8:50 AM
So really it has a vertical loop and a boomerang element?
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