And the pay-to-ride schemes just keep on coming...

Thanks for bringing up the Myers-Brigg personality types test. It was very intriguing.

I also don't feel as if we are arguing. We are just expressing different views, which I "feel" is very useful in gaining or sustaining social skills.

1. I don't see it as a fight. It's an eternal back and forth that I enjoy partaking in. I like the 'fight'

I wonder who else thinks this way? ;)

But really, how bout Karma?

Karma is parks stuck with debt and huge interest payments. Karma is parks being labeled slow growth investment vehicles while other entertainment vehicles rapidly expand and profit around them. Karma is parks looking to sell real estate to make next year's payments.

This was sort of my argument earlier. The park's are constantly in search of short-term fixes for cash infusion. Long-term...even with expanding population and incomes...they are maintaining status quo OR shrinking. Note this is more a conversational opinion that I don't hold too strongly...or at least don't know enough about to say with 100% confidence.

Something is wrong with the mid-level regional chains IMHO...when they cannot consistently grow their profits in today's business climate (OH, MI, and PN parks excluded). Attendance and spending should be up across the board...instead we've got flat lines. That might be karma...?

I dunno... I just know where I get my karma. And I can tell you, the people who own and run places like Holiday World have it in spades. I've never seen happier people.

It's too bad what we are brainwashed to think in modern society, at a very high level.

When you're ready to die, what did you do with your life? "I made a lot of money!" I guess it works for some. I'll just spend my day at Indiana Beach, and keep bein a hippie :)

Being a hippie at IB?

Reminds me of my days where I'd squeeze a trip up to IB in before a night of Phish down in Indy. That's as good as it gets for me. :) ;)


Yeah is Good!
LG, again according to the book, an INTJ is in approximately 2-4 percent of the American population. And I thought my ISFP 5-9 percentage was low! Check out this partial description of INTJs:

"As the most independent of all types, INTJs prefer to do things their own way. They are usally skeptical, decisive, and determined in the face of opposition. They are not impressed with authority per se, but can conform to rules only if they see them as useful to their greater purpose."

I don't know if any of the other sites go into this detail either, but we also have a dominant, auxillary, third function (opposite of #2), and fourth function (opposite of #1). So, for an INTJ, the order goes intuition, thinking, feeling, sensing.

For myself being an ISFP, the order is like a mirror image; feeling, sensing, intuition, thinking. I found that humorous.

It gets even better. In the "Strengths we share and the strengths you use privately" chapter, you take your middle two letters and that points out what you extravert, and what you introvert. It's no surprise that an INTJ extraverts their auxillary function which is thinking.

My extraverted feeling is sensing. Under descriptions of sensors, is says that I tend to be specific and literal and give detailed descriptions (see current BGE trip report:) )

One of the really cool things about the book is that it says there are certain age periods in which we start to incorporate more of our three other functions, although the dominant function stays dominant. Fun stuff I tell you.

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I have this strange feeling that I just accidentally linked into Dr. Phil's website.... ;)
Reverse Gonch theory...

Maybe some of these parks are planning ahead. They impelment these plans that they know will piss people off long term...they pocket short-term cash...in a year or two they advertise that their park no longer has a "cut" system. They have a year with no major capital improvements...but advertise themselves as understanding and fair...and BINGO...for a quarter or two they exceed expectations. Enthusiasts talk about how they really "get it" this time...yada yada.

It is a never-ending cycle of short-term planning designed to beat next quarters expectations. Add hours...cut hours...25 cent cotton candy...9$ Lollipop...etc.

The more I think about it...the more I pray this private equity trend finds its way to amusement park chains...;)

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Lord Gonchar said:
Well, I did make it quite clear I wasn't entirely believing myself - so things haven't gone totally loopy.

And I did realize that ;)


I break it down as black & white as this:

Amusement parks are not a right & everything is worth whatever someone will pay for it.


That can be said of most things in life, but it doesn't automatically justify a company doing anything it wants.

We've been over this a million times before and I know I certainly don't have anything to add to the conversation... all I can say is that there are lines that are crossed when companies initiate new plans to make more money and increase profits. Charging more for food? I'm fine with that (even though I might not like it). Bombarding guests with endless advertising and product placement? That's okay, I can chose to ignore it. In my eyes, it's not right to sell someone's place in line to someone else- that's crossing the line. But I don't think this debate is about black vs. right, right vs. wrong- it's about where each individual considers that hypothetical line to be.

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