Amusement Safety Org. Thoughts

Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:26 PM
So, what do you think about this relatively new amusement park safety organization?

http://www.amusementsafety.org/

To me, some of their numbers seem unreal. You should just look and see some of the comments (like the reported 85% of people who do not feel safe on Dragster) How much accredidation would you give this group? Any thoughts?

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Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:43 PM
I didn't get to look through the whole site but it looks like garbage to me. Someone went to the park with some friends and start rating stuff about being safe. CRAP CRAP CRAP!! More or less they complain about rough wooden coasters. I'll look it over tomorrow. Nice sig line!! HAHA!!
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Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:56 PM
I wonder if they polled people 85 and above about TTD saying it wasnt safe. 85% percent said that it wasnt safe that is just insane.
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Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:01 PM
I know the guy that started it up, Jason Herrera. He's running a business and just trying to make a living like the rest of us. He's had LOTS of enthusiast input, which is the funny part.
*** Edited 4/22/2005 1:02:03 AM UTC by GoliathKills***
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Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:21 PM
I have something to ask the makers of this website that bash, at practicly, the safest industry in the world!

Is the point of your website to excite people about the industry( increase park attendance perhaps) or is it to scare people out of their minds about amusement parks( dropping attandance).

Why don't they go after the safety of other actually not safe industries instead like airplanes even.

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Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:35 PM
Run a business how? What makes these guys qualified for anything?
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Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:17 PM
Whoa, how does this qualify as a business? I read ".org" and "Amusement Safety Organization" to be a sort of watch-dog group or soemthing to that effect. They are trying to profit?
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Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:48 PM
Looks to me it is a great way to get sued. Looking through some of the the pages it seems they are long on assumptions, but come up short on facts. What "trends" are they tracking with Hurler? It seems like they have done some kind of surveys, but it does not show the surveys, neither the questions with answers, and how they were answered by the surveys. They do not show how many people responded to the surveys. There are no news stories or resources to back up what they are saying. I think the Cedar Fair and Six Flags lawyers are going to have a field day with this one.
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Friday, April 22, 2005 12:40 AM
Maybe they saw a sneak peak to Final Destination 3 and thought it was a TLC or Discovery special on coasters???
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Friday, April 22, 2005 1:43 AM
This has to be some Community College project on statistics or something. I went though most of this site, and it contains about the quality of 18-19 yr. old students doing a last minute research project.

Like Cedar Piont needs reminded that the Breakers is old. If memory serves, they seem to have rebuilt practically the whole place. Hell yes people are afraid on TTD. No one would ride it all if it wasn't intimidating.

Whats up with that list of supporters? Never trust anyone named 'Isreal'.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 3:33 AM
Actually I know Isreal. He is one of the show producers at Knott's and a very nice guy. Why are you guys so concerned about this website? It's been up for over a year. *** Edited 4/22/2005 7:33:56 AM UTC by GoliathKills***
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Friday, April 22, 2005 8:11 AM
Aren't the point of coasters to scare the crap out of you safely?
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Friday, April 22, 2005 8:29 AM

RamblinWreck said: (like the reported 85% of people who do not feel safe on Dragster)

What people "Feel" is not important. Real accident trends are.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 8:44 AM
What a crock of poop. From the Knotts Berry Farm Section :

"The Silver Bullet roller coaster is NOT worth the drive to Knott's Berry Farm according to 75% percent of those polled. The 75% indicating that it was plain and boring."

Now I will give $5.00 to anyone who can tell me how that is related to ride safety.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 8:45 AM
In addition to lots of spelling/syntax errors ("it's the worse we've seen.."), the spouting of unattributed "research" is kind of funny.

Interestingly, in the PKI section they include a review of Bubba Gump's...apparently they find the salmon sandwich very "safe" <G> *** Edited 4/22/2005 12:46:36 PM UTC by JZarley***

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Friday, April 22, 2005 9:12 AM
Regarding "Knott's", does dehydration incidents make a park unsafe?

I imagine that many a lawyer would love to see this site.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 2:24 PM
Um, ok... 10 rider that get a headache from Ghostrider doesn't make it clear that it is to be avoided. Rather, it suggests to me that they weren't qualified, in the best physical health, or whatnot to be riding Ghostrider in the first place.

If that site wants to be a credible source of information, they need to stop reaching so far as to what constitutes a trend, IMHO.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 2:55 PM
This is one of the more worthless sites that I've seen; and as others have said, it seems to be asking for lawsuits.

They also don't seem to understand the concept of a trend. A trend is a change in data with time. ie. More people are voting for Republicans in congressional elections today than 30 years ago. (With data to back it up.) It is not, "There are a lot of injuries reported on the XYZ coaster." If you can prove it and put a number on it, that is a data point, but not a trend.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 3:26 PM
I think someone before got it right. This is probably a college project. It's kinda fun for a moment, at least I smiled.

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Friday, April 22, 2005 4:05 PM
I should have looked into the code, I noticed a lot of boiler plate; I wonder if it's an exercise in XML encoding...

The thing about it is, there is NOTHING specific on the site worth mentioning, and that will keep the .esq's away. Furthermore, it contains almost NO useful information.

The data they speak of is apparently based entirely on surveys or something; and by extension is apparently related to nothing more meaningful than the opinions of people who are probably not qualified to comment on the "safety issues" they refer to!

It reminds me of some of the user comments on that other ride accident site...I'm trying to remember...I think it's the Theme Park Insider site, where you can find all kinds of reports from people who were scared on rides and thought something was unsafe. You know, the "I couldn't believe the Enterprise doesn't have a seat belt" crowd.

Mostly harmless, but also mostly useless.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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