All disney resorts now smoke free.

And what really scares me is that I'm starting to remind myself of Gonch.

Do I need to start stalking you as well? ;)

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sws said:
Probably not. But my roommate in college once got his cat stoned. It jumped off a balcony and got hit by a truck. I wonder what the EPA would say about that??? See second hand smoke does lead to death....

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I could just hear the driver of that truck: I swear, it was raining cats and dogs and here's the cat that proves it!
;) *** Edited 5/5/2007 4:35:54 PM UTC by FLYINGSCOOTER***

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Rob Ascough said:

Pollen? Seriously? You're comparing something that's naturally-occuring to something voluntarily created by mankind. I doubt there is a way to rid the environment of pollen, since it's a byproduct of many types of foliage that grow with or without human intervention, but there is a way to rid society of the nasty, unhealthy stench of cigarette smoke. After all, no one puts a gun to someone's head and makes them light up.

(SNIP)

Seems to me the whole "pollen" idea is taking things to an unreasonable extreme.

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I'll tell you why I bring up pollen. Sure, it may be naturally occuring, but with the dedicated focus that people have on landscaping, you get a grouping of pollen from flowers that would not "naturally occur". And here in the DC area, in the name of "security" they have erected these big ass concrete barriers which they convert to flower planters, often bringing in exotic (read non-native) plants and their associated pollen. And these are in public spaces where allergy suffers cannot avoid.

I know to avoid horticultural societies during the spring or else I run the risk of sneezing fits and other various maladies. Likewise, I would not choose to work in a nursery or botanical garden so that I can avoid the stuff.

I would expect the militant non-smokers to do the same. If they dont like smoke in bars or parks, dont go to those bars or parks. Want to avoid workplace smoke: work somewhere smoke isnt.

I have no quarrel with Disney for putting whatever rule they feel benefits them as a company. Personally, I'd like to see *all* people stop smoking. What bothers me is that a certain group of people seem to feel that they can make choices for other people. The funniest thing is, while they are trying to make decisions for others, they make it seem as if the 'others' are impinging on *their* rights.

Seriously, there is no "right" to smoke-free air. Outside is fair game to all. Hell, if I had it my way, no one would be allowed to drive an SUV. They tear up our roads, dirty up our air, increase our energy costs, and are prone to more damaging accidents (physically and financially). But smokers are easy prey, and it is fashionable to jump on them.

I'm no longer a smoker and I pray that every smoker will be able to make that same claim before they die. But I wont sit by and not say anything while a vociferous few run ramrod over personal freedoms.
lata, jeremy

And that is where I think you are confusing the non-smoking militants with the much larger group of non-smokers that just want to protect themselves. The truth is there are some crazies out there, but most people aren't as diehard as you suggest. In fact, I think a lot of anti-smoking laws are created by government officials without much prompting from voters whatsoever. Before smoking was banned in bars and restaurants here in NJ, I don't recall there being any kind of outcry to pass that kind of law. It seemed to come from out of the blue.

I think this came up elsewhere a while back, but I'll reiterate what I once said. I'm not in favor of many "save yourself" laws like ones that require one to wear a beatbelt while driving or a helmet while riding a motorcycle. If you chose to be unsafe, so be it... as long as what you do has no effect on someone else's safety. I don't think laws be passed just because people are stupid because that kind of thinking gets out-of-hand and will eventually lead to everything becoming illegal or regulated. But smoking in restaurants and bars? That's an area as gray as the smoke itself.