A prediction: Mean Streak gone within 5 years

Personally I'd rather see Iron Dragon leave than any of their other coasters. Probably won't happen since it's more of a family coaster though.

Gomez: IIRC I've heard that MS actually costs in the $200k range to maintain annually. I'd bet most of that comes from the carpenters' saleries.

I personally don't think it needs torn down...Just rebuilt.

Keep a few parts, the first three hills, and brake run drop. Other than that, take out those long boring straight drops, or long boring curves. Put a few "S" swerves, or double ups or downs in there.

Just mix the ride up a little. It can be done.

Mean Streak is still one of the best looking coasters out there...but the ride is totally different.

After this past season overhaul on the ride:

Some say it will be torn down in the next 5 years, but with the rate they are adding steel braces to the ride, it will be a steel coaster in the next 5 years!! :)

As long as Disaster Transport is there, Mean Streak will be fine. Mean Streak is one of the coolest looking coasters in the world. That alone ensures ridership.

To the guy who mentioned Corkscrew - Not gonna happen. This ride would free up basically no room, and the corkscrews over the path are one of the coolest things about CP.

Hopfully CP will put some wood in place of DT.

Why don't the just remove the trims? That would satisfy me.

Maybe CP will start using duct tape to fix Mean Streak too. It works on Dragster. ;)

+Danny

Why is this topic still open? Mean streak isn't going anywhere.

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SFoGswim said:
Why don't the just remove the trims? That would satisfy me.

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There's a lot more to running a park than satisfying one patron. Maintanance and rider comfort I'm sure play a big role.

Today I had one of those PATENTED "crackpot theories" that I have sometimes....sure you can call me a lunatic (everyone does...:)), but I've been right once or twice too.

Here goes: PROOF OF CONCEPT

Remember when TTD was "semi-announced"...as many rides seem to be....and everyone talked about how CF used Xcelerator as a trial version (on a smaller scale) to determine whether the particular ride might work. Isn't it possible to expand upon the idea, from the smaller arena of a *new ride mechanism* to the larger one of a MAJOR ride removal in the park...

CF has Dorney remove Herc, the park's "signature mega-woodie" to put in a ride that WILL be smoother and more publicly appreciated. What if a larger park within the chain was *considering* a similar concept, removing the BIG meda-woodie that wasn't very popular, to put in something that might "spread the crowds" back to the back corner of the park. This would be a HUGE gamble, removing Mean Streak (and thereby leaving only the one wooden coaster...at least for one season, a la Herc). SO maybe CF has already THOUGHT about removing MS and putting in a "sleeker, more modern, less appreciated, less maintenance-heavy ride"....and is using Dorney to *prove the concept* that attendance drops from removing the signature woodie needn't be a concern....sounds pretty hokey to me too, at first...;)

Then again, I had Snowy's Cones for dinner...:)
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I though Herc was removed cause of the cost of upkeep. A few million a year to keep it running. And as I recall Mean Streak is no ware near as rough as Herc.

I can't imagine that Cedar Fair would use Dorney as a guinea pig for an experiment like that. There has to be a good reason for the removal of a coaster, and research isn't really a good one. On the other hand, I'm sure that the folks at Cedar Fair are monitoring the situation for future reference. I can't see Mean Streak going anywhere for a while, once again as long as Disaster Transport is still running. The Mine Ride is still low on the totem pole in my book especially because Woodstock Express, a coaster of a similar feel and intensity is nearby.

Maybe use the over flow Q to put a new small coaster back in there. Something exciting that would fit. Bring more people to the back.

Is Grizzly considered that bad by you guys? I've always enjoyed it. Especially the night rides! And, oh yea, they will not be removing MS soon, but not many would care otherwise IF they do. The main selling point is the short lines IMO!

If you would have asked me if I believed Hercules would ever be removed from Dorny I would have laughed at you. Now, you can say the joke is on me and I'm the one being laughed at. Considering the recent Herc situation, I could def see Mean Streak being removed. It makes logical sense to me considering both coasters have the same history. Let's not forget that Herc was built 2 years before MS. I give it at least 2 more years before MS is removed. But yes I believe it will be removed sometime in the near future to make way for something more popular, smoother, and something requiring less upkeep/maintenance.

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+Danny said:
Maybe CP will start using duct tape to fix Mean Streak too. It works on Dragster. ;)

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And Millennium Force... and Wicked Twister.

It's the Intamin fix-all. Perhaps it's good for Summers Dinn, too?

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DorneyDante said:
If you would have asked me if I believed Hercules would ever be removed from Dorny I would have laughed at you. Now, you can say the joke is on me and I'm the one being laughed at.

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Yeah, but it's not because of Herc.'s removal. :P

While nearly all enthusiasts hold the opinion that Mean Streak is rough, boring, or both, the majority of people I know that have visited CP either think it's a great wooden coaster, or have no strong opinion of it. All of the negative opinions concerning Mean Streak that I've heard belong to enthusiasts. The GP isn't as picky when it comes to coasters as us. As for ridership issues, I know I've had a fair share of longer waits for Mean Streak, but just because Millie has a longer wait down the road doesn't mean the ride has been written off by the casual park-goer. *** Edited 6/20/2004 11:28:08 PM UTC by BullGuy***

I haven't been to the park on a Sat., but it sounds like the days that MS is a walk-on, Magnum, Gemini, WT are also....

I don't see the park removing any of those anytime soon, so...

Can't short lines also be attributed to higher capacity? It usually runs three trains when I am there and has about the same line length, or maybe just a little shorter, then Maggie. The PR guy said that it still has good ridership. They also mentioned Disaster Transport being the first thing they would take out IF they did take anything at all out. If they really wanted to do something in that area, they should move Demon Drop to Michigan's Adventure and remove DT and put a woodie on the beach. I don't want to see DT go but I am sure it's on their list of things to remove soon. :( I think that ride would be cool if more of the old theming was brought back.

That's what I'm saying... ridership is not an issue. When you consider that the park has essentially had flat attendance for at least a dozen years, yet they've added a mess of new rides, the overall capacity of the park is higher.

Mean Streak gets just as many rides as it always has, but like White Water Landing and Mine Ride (and the back train station), the number of guests at opening and after 9pm is traditionally low in that part of the park.