A BLAST in the Wilderness

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:33 PM
That's right, by now you have probably heard that Silver Dollar City is tearing down the world's first "Water-Coaster" to replace it with a new ride. Dustijn Hollon of Midwest Info Guide, came upon the copyright information on the name "Powder Keg". I had asked for any information about the new ride from SDC and was sent this e-mail in reply:

"
A Blast In The Wilderness…

Opening 2005!

Our new ride, now under construction and replacing BuzzSaw Falls, is one of the most exciting additions to Silver Dollar City ever!

It promises to be a major thrill ride, fast, exciting and designed with today’s latest technology!

More information will be posted on our website in late June or you can check the progress during your next visit to Silver Dollar City."

It's obviously going to be big if they had to start the deconstruction/construction period in March a year before it was built.

Major Thrill Ride, fase, exciting, and designed with technology. While talking to the SDC employment rep he had said that it was an S&S. SO all signs point to this being a S&S Thrust Air. What do you guys thing?

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:45 PM
I think the details of this ride were in a magazine. I remember Moosh and Swoosh both talking about it, but if I remember correctly, they just kept saying 'insiderish' comments and winking at one another, leaving me completely confused.

As for my opinion, it could be a number of things if it is S&S. They appear to be doing a lot more prototypes and such, so its really hard to say its one thing or another. Maybe someone who got a copy of the magazine could fill us all in.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:52 PM
Launched 4D?
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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:10 PM
I believe it was First Drop that Swoosh and Moosh were refering to; you should try a search! :)
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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:10 PM
I don't think it's a S&S Thurst Air at all. Like I said in this thread - just look at #7 on the survey they did last year.

I have no inside info and don't claim to, but this one really feels like a no brainer.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:36 PM
Well at least they didn't decide on the SLC - although that's some funky looking SLC track, but the description fits perfectly.

I love that competitve ride/game concept though - I hope a complex that big gets put in someplace, that's one flat ride I'd like to try out!

So how is Premeir going to incorporate LIMs and water into the same coaster? Giant blow dryer in the exit station?

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:30 PM
I assumed that if they were talking to S&S they were talking to them about wooden coasters, but that wouldn't make much sense (especially after their two big hits with GCI). I agree, everyone who seems to know about what is going on, seems to be talking about it in a different language. I have no idea what is going on.

PS: Doesn't California Screamin' incorporate water with LIMs to cool them?

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:56 PM
Honestly I don't care! I'm just happy they are building this monster!!! YAY! SDC ROCKS!
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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:34 PM
Every impulse is built with a roof over the LIMs the entire length of the launch tracks, I'm not sure about all of them, but at least the Premier LIM launchs I've been on all have covered LIMs. So, that leads me to believe that there's some reason water and LIMs don't mix. If this coaster is Premier as the picture shows (the other pictures seem similar to what they're describing), then the fins are on the sides of the car which would go through water ...

Something just doesn't jive for me there. I'm just curious.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:47 PM
Brett,

That coaster they used to describe the SLC is a Vekoma Junior Suspended if I am looking at it correctly.

Also, CoasterMatt is correct. California Screamin' uses water to cool down the LIMs.

First Drop did report that a S&S Family Thrust Air was going to SDC, but that remains to be seen. There was a image of a layout for a new Thrust Air seen in the last IAAPA issue as well. I guess we will find out soon

Anyway you look at it, I am sure the new ride will be more popular than Buzzsaw Falls.

-Sean

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:02 PM

Impulse-ive said:
So, that leads me to believe that there's some reason water and LIMs don't mix.

I don't believe it's the water that doesn't mix but rather heat. You can clearly see on California Screamin' that the LIMs are uncovered by any shelter but water is very near to them in order to keep them from overheating. I don't have any good pictures of this, but I know that they are out there.

I also wanted to mention that there are Shoot-the-Chutes water rides out there (Intamin-made) that use a magnetic braking system underwater.

*** Edited 4/22/2004 3:05:06 AM UTC by Cameraman***

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:06 PM
Maybe the roof over the LIMs on an Impulse has more to do with keeping the inverted train dry to prevent oil from dripping onto riders; just a thought.

My unprofessional opinion is that LIMs could work while wet. Do outdoor LIM launched rides like Chiller close when it rains? I don't know for sure. Magnetic brakes work in the rain; aren't they almost the same concept?

S&S rides use an air launch anyway, so what are we talking about LIMs for?

My response has no answers; only more questions.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:14 PM
Chiller, Freezes, etc. have outdoor LIM's with no problems.
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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:17 PM
In the survey it says that you will fall 70 feet into a lake area thing. Wasn;t BSF's drop 70 some feet? But as seen in the deconstruction pictures, the drop is already torn down....

I'm having trouble picturing this ride as described by the survey. "You will explode from the station aboard this coaster at a speed of nearly 50 mph to twist and turn through the Ozark Mountains aboard a high speed coaster vehicle. Just after blasting from the station, you will experience a 0 g force as you fall 200 feet to continue racing through the area on this wild ride through the woods! The water-filled finale, complete with splash, will send you plummeting 70 feet to the bottom where no one, not even observers, are immune to the wall of water that is sent up!"
So from the station you go into a zero-g roll or something, then go down a 200 drop twisting through the mountains. Then fall into water from 70 ft. up. Sounds nice, but still can't picture it.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:43 PM

"According to First Drop it's an S&S Family Air-Thurst coaster, 50 MPH launch, no inversions, no "top hat," just turns and hills. If the layout in First Drop is correct this will NOT have anthing near a 200 foot drop. But First Drop is not always correct." - Moosh


Sorry, but how hard is it to use the search feature? Also Word, we did not play the "insider" game. All we did was read the magazine. There is also a layout in the magazine, but not sure how accurate it is.

-SS

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Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:20 AM
I wasn't trying to come down on either of you. Its just that sometimes, people such as yourself like to keep things like this (such as the new WoF coaster)to yourselves, and I thought this was one of those cases. Sorry I didn't search, but I didn't think that this question would have been asked if it had already been answered by someone on here.

Anyways, a thrust air without a tophat sounds like a great addition to SDC.

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Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:29 AM
Family Thrust Air? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? :)
-R
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Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:49 AM
SFGAdv lover, did you NOT read the post two above your's?

Word, it was discussed in two different threads and a news item. Also the above mentioned ride (SD) was not a case of "I know and you don't nah nah nah," but more of a security issue that IF I told, don't expect to get any future information. This is also the case in Adventureland's new ride.

Richard, no - look at the speed and what tge ride will do. Also note that they call Wildfire a "family looping coaster".

-SS *** Edited 4/22/2004 12:51:25 PM UTC by Swoosh***

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Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:26 AM
With the exception of the launch, and even it is not that loud, an S&S Air-Thrust coaster keeps with SDC's desire to have quiet rides.

JW
Thinking about working the new coaster next year instead of the OW.
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Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:51 AM
Just to put another possibility, but couldn't this be another S&S product, say a Space Shot??
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