16th On The Mountain

OK...I have been an avid fan of Magic Mountain for years even before Six Flags bought it. I have watched this park grow, change, add, and subtract over the last 20 years. Part of me is estatic that they are building a brand new ride. Of course there is that lingering disappointment that instead of building a record breaker, they opted for a clone. I LOVE floorless coasters, but the very least they could have done was broken the records for speed and height. Superman Krypton coaster is 168 feet tall, while Batman Knight Flight is 4210 long. Neither of these are the flagship parks in the chain and yet, Scream has fallen short in both cases. I KNOW I should be grateful, but it just would have been nice to either have a HUGE floorless OR the only B&M flying coaster in the west. Lord knows B&M flyers must be smoother than the flying dutchmen. *shrug* Oh well...Im quite sure it will be a fun ride nonetheless. After all, Ive enjoyed the other 4 floorless coasters Ive ridden.

It's not a clone

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WOOD: It does a body good.

OK....Maybe I read the announcement wrong. Hey, it does happen and I concede that I am fully capable of making errors. But I looked at the sequence of elements, and I didnt necessarily see anything that sets it apart for Medusa in New Jersey. Did I miss something ?

It just sounds like it's gonna have 2 airtimeish hills, which would be cool! Otherwise yes, it's probably a "clone"

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Like many other B&M coasters, the inversion sequence is familiar. However the layout is custom.

Moosh

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At least Magic Mountain is getting a new coaster. Kennywood my never see a B&M coaster in thier park. If only they had more room. I may never ride Scream at magic mountain.

Do you really WANT to see a B&M at a park like Kennywood? I just can't see it.

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WOOD: It does a body good.

That "similar sequence of inversions", that DOES become awful *familiar* when you live in the B&M showroom.....that's what makes Pyrrhock my steelie of choice....Montu is great, but give me something a little *different*. But hey, it's a coaster, it's new, and the people that PAY for it will probably wait in line for a "floorless" (look, THAT'S cool)...which means WE will get more X rides....yippee!

I don't get that attitude, I really don't. I know others would complain but if Cedar Point put in tiny little mouse I'd certainly be happy because it's something different from the rest of the collection. I suspect many Mountain fans would feel the same way.

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Why does a coaster have to break records to be any good?

If you ask me, BKF's weakness is that extra length and its associated tendency to Raptor around at given points. Be glad Scream doesn't have that problem.

An extra inline twist mighta been nice and captured the North American record for inversions, too...what am I saying? Anyway, a coaster doesn't need an '-est' tacked to it to be great. Frankly, an '-est' often winds up being what's wrong with a coasteras opposed to what's right.

-'Playa

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Hopefully its zeroGroll will be more "Krakenish" than "Medusa-ish"

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WOOD: It does a body good.

You're right, Playa (like you need to be told THAT anymore). I really don't care for B:KF after the midcourse.

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Right on, Playa! That especially holds true with wood. None of my top wood is an "-est" coaster, and I think the only two "-est" steelies in my Top 10 are SFNE's Superman and X.

Moosh - happy but still wishing the park was getting flats....

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One thing about this ride is that it SHOULD boost capaciy at a Six Flags park so.....

Right, Bosshawk. With Scream the wait on X should be down to 3 or 4 hours!

Moosh

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Actually, when I went to the Mountain on November 3rd, the longest I waited for X was 1.75 hours, and thats because they only had the one train running. When they put on the second train, it was a 45 mins wait....Of course I NEVER make the fatal error of visiting a theme park on a Saturday =).

Well... regardless, this camper is happy because I find Medusa West to be my favorite steel, and I am quite fond of floorless coasters, so Nasai will be there!

Look at SoB: For all the records it has, the only -est I've heard about it is "the biggest waste." (Haven't ridden it yet).

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I don't know, some of these '-est' coasters are my favorites:

Coaster - 'Most Ass-Kicking-est'

Cornball - 'Most Fun-est'

Phantom's Revenge - 'Best-est'

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I don't want to get buzzbanned for making the same post all over the place, but this thing is NOT going to look like Medusa East or West, it's gonna look like Superman WBMW. Now will someone go and do some intrepid research and proove that the second loop is an immelman...