Knoebels vs. Elitch Twisters

I never rode either of these rides, but I'm just curious. Does the Knoebels Twister match the ride of the original? Can it be considered a worthy replacement for John Allen's GBNF masterpiece?

I haven't ridden Knoebels Twister, but i'll tell you one thing it probably couldn't stand a chance against the original Mister Twister at the old Elitch's. That was a sheer masterpiece.

I have not been on the Knoebel's Twister either. I have heard it is a great ride. However, I dont think they are really that comparable. Knoebel's changed quite a few things from the original. I should be able to tell you which I think is better next year as I will be going to Knoebel's. The original (Mister) Twister was one of the best coasters I have ever been on. I STILL can't believe Elitch's didn't move it. They lost an outstanding, unique, world class ride. I know it has been demolished but does anyone know if the saved the pieces of it like the Phoenix or the Comet?? It would be cool if a park could buy the original and bring it back like the Phoenix and the Comet.

Never been on Mister Twister, but the Knoebels Twister is a great ride no matter what.

Ok here's the low down on the Twisters.
They are the same heights and drop and turn radius and angles. The Tracks are mirror images of each other. The original Twister had just 1 lift where as Knoebels has a switch back lift. Also the double helix on the original was on the out side of the lifthill, Knoebels Twister runs thru the lift. Also knoebels lowered the enterace to the second half of the helix to lessen a slow spot on the original. The Original Mr. twister had two tunnels and Knoebels only has one. Also the brake run and station was modified on the Knoebels version. Mr. Twister ran 3 bench PTC's and twister runs 2. Other than those I don't know.
One web site that has a ton of pictures of the original Mr. Twister is Bob's coaster page on AOL. Sorry but I forget the addy to the site.

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Parks hit for 2000!
PKD,BGW,Knoebels,DP,HP,PKI,HW,SFKK,SFA,SFNE,LC,GE,QP, Camden, SFO,CP,WL,IW,KW

I was not aware that Knoebel's Twister only has one tunnel. Which tunnel did they leave off from the original Mister Twister? Are they planning on adding the other tunnel at some point? I'am looking forward to riding the Knoebel's Twister next year. I'am sure I will love it. Coasterpunk did you ride both Twisters? If so, which did you prefer?

Nevermind about which tunnel. I went to Bob's coaster page and checked out his pictures of both rides. I must say that Knoebels Twister looks great and some aspects of it look even better than the original. They need to add the first tunnel though. That was one of the best parts of the Mr. Twister. That tunnel looked like it was going to chop your head right off! It looks like Knoebel's could add this tunnel easily. Now I'am really looking forward to going to Knoebel's next year!

Unfortunately I didn't ride the original. On the bright side I live 20 minutes from Knoebels. It's a great never slows up fast paced ride. The enterance to the helix is insane in car 1 seat 2 on the right side. It just wants to throw you out of the train! I usually ride it several times a week. Definately one of the best woodies I've ridden. I can usually get away with two clicks on the lap bars. :)

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Parks hit for 2000!
PKD,BGW,Knoebels,DP,HP,PKI,HW,SFKK,SFA,SFNE,LC,GE,QP, Camden, SFO,CP,WL,IW,KW

Actually Knoebels was going to add the second tunnel but opted for the visuals for riders and spectators since that area is right next to a playground in the campround. And on the ride you scream thru the turn with the structure on the each side.

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Parks hit for 2000!
PKD,BGW,Knoebels,DP,HP,PKI,HW,SFKK,SFA,SFNE,LC,GE,QP, Camden, SFO,CP,WL,IW,KW

One of the interesting bits of trivia about the original Mr. Twister is the fact that it was John Allen's least favorite coaster. John didn't like twisters,but due to space limitations Mr. Twister was the result. As I recall he had to come back out after the initial season and tweak it some. Apparently the plans weren't followed exactly when it was built.It's a shame they didnt' move both coasters when the moved the park. They were superior to what they have now.