Arrow definately doesn't need redeeming(who knows, the same could be said about B&M in ten or so years, personally I get my head slung a few times on the three inverts of thiers I get to ride so far, but that's just me), if anything X looks like a turn-off to me. Spinning, revolving, all of that, not to mention being "dropped on my head", just doesn't sound like a good time for me. I like loopers, unfortunately my zone of coaster reach does not have the major loopers by Arrow, so I can only say that IMO the idea could have evolved into something more confortable. Lap bars? I don't know, lap bars would redeem some of the companies that need redeeming. X, not for me, maybe it'll bring a new looper out of 'em, or something.