Arrow corkscrews

Are there any Arrow coasters at all that do NOT have some sort of drop preceding the corkscrews? B&M and Intamin coasters sometimes have drops before the corkscrews, but not always.

Examples: Vortex at PKI http://www.rcdb.com/ig71.htm?picture=2

Corkscrew at Cedar Point http://www.rcdb.com/ig13.htm?picture=4

Anaconda at PKD http://www.rcdb.com/ig92.htm?picture=5

Demon at SFGAm http://www.rcdb.com/ig3.htm?picture=13

I doubt it, considering that it's almost a signature of theirs, to have the brake run and then drop down into the corkscrews...it's the same way at SFGAdv's Great American Scream Machine.

Well some of the smaller ones. (corkscrew at VF and CP. They don't have brake runs before the corkscrews. ;)

PKI's Vortex has a *very shallow* drop heading into the 'screws. In some ways even better than the B&M versions ("flat spins"), and almost a forerunner of the modern *Jojo roll*...

As noted, the old-model corkscrew coasters don't drop in, they go up into the element if anything...
http://www.rcdb.com/ig96.htm?picture=3

I can think of three:

Viper @ SFMM, Shockwave @ SFGAm [defunct], and Great American Scream Machine @ SFGAdv.

Erhm....To pick up some speed?

-Colin-

good catch there on GASM, moosh. I forgot it was after the batwing and turn that the corkscrews were.... Maybe 1 too many rides on that coaster for me ;)

You basicly need a drop in order to get the speed to go through the inversion.

yeah but that's one sloooooooooooooooooow inversion.

Carolina Cyclone at Carowinds simply has a sharp curve leading into the corkscrews.

Picture

However, the ride doesn't have any midcourse brakes.

http://rcdb.com/ig123.htm?picture=27

The (defunct) Steel Phantom just went from its batwing/butterfly (call it what you like) into a turn, into the corkscrew.

Damn you, Jophish, for beating me to Dragon Fire :P

I don't care what kind of picture you guys show me. All coasters need some type of drop to go through an inversion. :)

Unliess your an LIM or Rocket. ;)

No one was denying that coasters need a drop do go through an inversion.

The question was asking whether Arrow corkscrews always have a drop preceeding their corkscrew turns.

Smart ass! ;)

Was that really neccesary. ;)

Speaking of Arrow corkscrews... the best corkscrews I've ever been on: PKI's Vortex and PKD's Anaconda. Gonzo hang time... WAY better than Hydra's jo-jo roll, in my opinion. Can I get an amen?

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Corkscrewy said:
All coasters need some type of drop to go through an inversion. :)

Unliess your an LIM or Rocket. ;)

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Or Hulk... ;)

Just sayin' is all....LOL!

Well, thats one of a kind. ;)

Fine, unless your an LIM, Rocket, some weird B&M launch, or any other damn launching coaster.;)

So did Arrow corkscrews require that the track be banked before entering the element, maybe due to the longer trains? (i.e. NOT like Looping coasters on Roller Coaster Tycoon) I've looked at B&M coasters (more specifically, Hulk http://www.rcdb.com/ig557.htm?picture=17) and noticed the twisting of the corkscrew came much later in the element when compare with Arrow corkscrews.