No Seatbelt Changes At CP

I'm no rocket scientist by far and having boldly stated that, I propose this question: Why would a park modify a roller coaster (ex. Superman) one year and then turn around next year and take the modifications off? Doesn't make too much sense to me and it seems even more futile to get ones self in a tizzy over it.

Another thought of mine is this: Bryan Edwards is a person whose title reads- Public Relations Representative, Marketing Division. (unless he's been promoted in the past year and someone can correct me there if I'm wrong) How many degrees of separation are there between someone in this department and oh say someone who is in charge of maintenance and designing something like a new seatbelt/seat for MF? I'm not dissing the person who asked him the question about seatbelts/modifications nor am I trying to put Edwards in a bad light. I'm just trying to understand how much he could know at this point in the offseason about something like this.

If anybody can shed any light on what I've asked please feel free to do so...I may be out in left field here but then again I might be hitting it closer than some think too!

I'm not saying the comment was right (it could've been phrased a lot nicer), but vacoasterfreak, you're definitely not someone who has anything to worry about when it comes to fitting in seats, nor do I (unless something's changed...). With the new U.S. Health and Human Services and Agriculture departments now recommending an hour a day of excercise to prevent weight gain, it's not such a bad idea. *** Edited 1/18/2005 5:11:44 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***

Maybe they can put a Dragster train on MF for the larger people. If they can do it?

^no, for too many reasons to list

They wouldn't need the entire train... just the seats :)

Well I think everyone including myself should start dieting now and mabe by May we'll all be under 200lbs and we will beable to ride everything. Last year I was 230 lbs.and even though I had a real hard time buckeling up I made it, but I'm not going through that again.

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Dragster said:
I have aboslutely no problem with the seats, due to the fact Im an average size person, but I have heard several complaints from people that the test seat is smaller than the actuall seats or atleast the seat belt is shorter. What's up with that?

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The test seats are the same size as the seats on the train but some of the belts on the train are a little longer because they are pulled on by the guests and ride ops hundreds of times a day and do stretch a little. I have noticed this several times, one seat belt will have a lot of room and the next one will be a new one and I will have to pull it really tight to get the one inch of slack out of it.

Well, good thing I started losing weight towards the end of last year. Trying to get around 220-230 to see if I have a shot at it. Hard to believe that they are not making any changes to the belts considering how many people got booted off MF & TTD last year due to the belts.

JR, they cannot make their own changes to the belts. According to Ohio law, if a manufacturer of a ride specifies a change be made (as Intamin did), parks MUST implement that change.

The "blame" should not be aimed at Cedar Point, only Intamin. CP would love to have every customer happy....

Didn't know that George, WOW am I glad Knoebels isn't in Ohio...(re: PTC trains, seatbelts,, etc.)...

If there is inspiration for people, then maybe it's Ryan from the Biggest Loser (the winner of $250,000). In one segment shot after he got home from the ranch where they trained, he was overjoyed that he could fit [insert product placement with Corporate partner] on Revenge of the Mummy at Universal, whereas prior he couldn't fit on unamed roller coaster.

George, I know that CP cannot make changes to the belts themselves. I'm not placing the blame on Cedar Point, but you would think that Intamin would have tried to work with CP to come up with a better solution during the offseason here after all the heat the point took over the changing of the belts.

This just in - Intamin has been bought by Weight Watchers. Weight Watchers executives released this statement:

"While we at Weight Watchers have been trying for years to find effective ways to avoid eating healthy and exercising while still losing weight, or at least motivate people to try, it would appear that Intamin Rides has achieved this with much less effort than we have ever expended. Their roller coaster designs which do not allow people with multiple rolls to ride have prompted more people to slim down than we have ever been able to achieve. In order to keep fast food joints, our own company and Wal Mart in business, we have bought Intamin and will be insituting a policy of double-sized seats on all Intamin coasters from this point forward. Thank you."

This reporter feels that the credibility of the U.S. has taken yet another hit and is considering moving to Canada, although the lack of launched coasters in the Great White North is hindering this decision.

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redman822 said:
JR, they cannot make their own changes to the belts. According to Ohio law, if a manufacturer of a ride specifies a change be made (as Intamin did), parks MUST implement that change.

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I'm not sure this excludes parks from making changes to rides that aren't mandated by the manufacturer.

As far as I know, the law in Ohio only states that if the manufacturer says make a change, the park must comply. I'm sure that a park can't make a change without being ordered.

What about rides whose manufacturers are no more?

Another point to consider is this: CP is a huge paying customer of Intamin. Now having stated this, we can put into play the fact that once a directive comes down from Intamin, CP can go by it, if it's relatively minor, or they can use their powers-that-be (aka big money spent on past/future rides) to add enlightenment to that directive. If anybody honestly thinks CP sits there and just obeys everything that every manufacturer says without some "discussion" (which could very well be to their advantage or maybe not) then I've got some real good deal on a bridge in Brooklyn for ya! I firmly believe that CP can *persuade* this directive away after a couple of years or maybe with a order of new deeper seats for all sized guests.