Any B&M Duds

Vortex at PGA is one of the veryt first stand ups there were and it apparently is rough. I have ridden it and yes its short because its kind of a prototype. I didn't fell uncomfortible at all and every B&M I have been on give you the feeling of flight or gliding in the air, this one didn't.

The closest thing to a "dud" that I can think of would have to be Iron Wolf at SFGAm. The thing is, I really like the layout, unlike most B&M's the layout is not predictable, and it does not include any massive elements. Rather, the ride is very tight and compact with lots of sudden changes in directions. The problem is, its a stand-up, and those changes in direction do not bode well for your head. It is probably about the only ride that makes me angry when I ride it. Everytime I go to SFGAm with someone, they always want to ride IW, even though I tell them they shouldn't. It has never failed that everytime they get off the ride they tell me that I was right, though unfortunately I usually end up going on it with them. So i guess u could call IW a good concept, just bad execution. Maybe you could call it a half-dud, cause without the headbanging, I would really love the ride.

I think the Raptor at CP is way to over paced and boring for an invert.
BKF at SFWoA,it seems to me this ride just doesn't get started untill you hit the mid-brakes.

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Jeff said:
I still maintain that there's no such thing as a "rough" B&M, but different strokes, I suppose.

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I agree. I guess rough is a relative term. I think any B&M, at least all the ones I've ridden are smoother than your typical Arrow looper or SLC.

B&M coasters seem to age pretty fast. Hulk was a little rougher than I was expecting, but it was still a great coaster. As for a bad B&M, I have yet to ride one!

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E.J.
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My least fav b&m coaster would have to be the iron wolf. I also think that the hulk is a little rough

I didnt think mantis was all the fun.I thought it was kind bumpy when it was about to enter some of its inversions.-james

BKF is in my opinion the best ride in Ohio. IN "MY" OPINION. The ride was a little too short for me though. Mantis was okay, and Raptor was also a very, very great ride too. So was Alpengeist, Kumba, Apollo's Chariet. I loved all of these B&M rides.

B&M duds? There's a coaster nut someplace who sells T-shirts with their logo on them.......

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

(Such wit! You should be proud, Dave.)

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
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iron wolf has really gonne down hill. when it first opened up it was one hell of a ride. it reminds me of a stand up version of batman. non stop action. it has a short break in the middle. the second half has gottin out of control though.it makes soe pretty iontense manuevers. does anyone knoe if the wolf was suppose to have midcoarse brakes becasue its design looks like it does. there is a 50 foot flaty straight away in the middle of the ride about 60 feet in the air. it looks like it was designed to be but never added. this gones on my list as probbaley the only coaster that would improve with brakes in that part. it just has to much speed in the end. i still ride it every trip and will never give up. this is probbaly the most intense b and m you will find.
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bhilk

I've never ridden a B&M that was rougher than an Arrow, not even the Iron Wolf. Also, I must respond to that Kraken remark some posts back. It's the best sitdown multielement I've ever been on, and it didn't remind me of the Kumba any at all. But I rode the Kumba after the Kraken, so maybe that's the difference.

Jeff, do you know who does B&M's manufacturing? I thought they had a factory and did it all from track to trains to supports to whatever.

There is a fabricator in Southern Ohio that makes track, and I thought there was another one in the US, but I could be mistaken. I'm fairly certain that the trains are made in Europe, as I seem to remember Cedar Point posting photos of the finished Mantis trains from somewhere in Switzerland.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com

Chang is my least favorite rollercoaster in the world besides Python at BGT. Its layout isn't terribly interesting, and it causes alot of pain in the legs due to all of the blood rushing to them. From what I understand, not all B&M stand-ups are like this, but there are a couple of elements that really put you through the wringer.

Odd, I have *never ever ever* experienced any leg pain whatsoever on Chang, in my 30 or so rides. Mantis opening year was the only stand up to give me leg pain. I also don't find any of the headbanging select ACErs complain all day and night about on Chang. I think it's a solid coaster, except the very last part of the ride could have been a little more exciting. I enjoy Mantis and RRv more, but Chang is ahead of Iron Wolf, Vortex at PGA, Georgia Scorcher, Shockwave PKD and King Cobra PKI. I enojoy the larger standups I guess.

About the "B&M dud." The "worst" B&M I've ridden is Vortex at PC but it was still a fun, peppy little ride.

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Millennium is spelled with two N's ;)

Legendary, if by PC you mean the Vortex stand up @ Carowinds, I would agree that it is the "worst" I've ridden. But I wouldnt call it 'fun' or 'peppy'. That was the most boring B&M I've ever been on (just slightly behind Hulk). It was like Iron Wolf lite, all of the elements with half the intensity. If I had to pick a Beemer Bomb, Vortex @ Carowinds would be it.
jeremy
--who still doesnt consider any B&M to be 'bad', just not his cup of 'flow-thru' beverage.

My nominee for B&M dud would be their floorless coasters. The two I've ridden, Medusa east and BKF were fairly boring rides in comparison to any of their inverted coasters I've ridden.