SFMW the clone park!!!

Actually, I thkn the first part of Medusa before the sea serpent is almost exactly the same as Kraken.

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Six Flags did not build Kong or Boomerang, so the Venkoma bunch had nothingto do with them. V2 will no longer be a clone. Both Medusa's are completely different. Roadrunner Express is actualy a mirror image of most of the common Tivoli Force(same thing as Taxi Jam@PC, Brain Teaser@SFDL, and DerRollercoaster?@SFFT). Cobra is the only one clone from the Venkoma10 club(10 or more version built of that ride) that Six Flags put into the park. Roar is not an exact clone, that like me calling Top Gun at PGA and PC clones, grant it they start out the same but there are many little changes you find along the way. I really don't think you'll find a Six Flags park in the USA that has brought on the clone(d) family, and I don't really care. It's not like I'm going to get to Chicago anytime soon to ride V2 or Roar in Maryland.

Actually V2 will still be a clone of Superman Ultimate Escape.

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We mean V2 at Marine World

i hate six flags period, they are so uncreative and i dont know how they expect to draw people to a park from far away with just another clone that the person has at their home park. i hope six flags goes bankrupt and never comes back again, i hate them *that* much...

Talking about too many parks sorry got confused also I thought GASM's layout was half way between shockwave's and Viper's, i stand corrected as for height the drop is in fact 5 feet different not just the height. Each one was built to be the Tallest AND fastest coaster in the world when built.

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As far as the hating of Six Flags you are an idiot, we wouldn't have half the coasters we have now to ride if not for Six Flags. I am very glad to have Six Flags besides where else can you get a season pass for 50 bucks and go to so many parks? My brother ended up paying less then 5 dollars a trip to go to different SF's last year. Without Six Flags look at what we would be without. There is a clone of Raptor in Japan does that make CP suck too, geez. Clones only bug me when they are crappy rides to begin with, I.E. Boomerangs and most SLC's. Other then that bring them on. Batman:TR rocks Goliath and Titan definitely rock, Deja Vu, V2 and S:UE, the list goes on and on. To say that you want Six Flags to go Bankrupt and never come back again is ignorant and uneducated.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce on 3/20/2002. ***

Well, Monkeymaster, it sounds like you do care an awful lot, if you're worried about how they're going to draw people from far away. If you had any common sense at all, you'd realize that most parks are regional parks, and are advertised as such. If you decided to go to another park half way across the country, and they have the same ride as your park, it's your fault for making the trip, not theirs. Hoping a park chain goes bankrupt proves that you are selfish and are against new technology in the amusement industry. If you would learn your history, you'd learn that Six Flags has introduced many first of their kind rides.
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The word "definitely" is definitely the most misspelled word on the buzz.

You would actually have to credit Six Flags for bring on the second coaster era(not Disney), they keeping bringing the new and unusual thrills every year. The fact that we get totry out the latest thrills at our home Six Flags parks is what I see, not that we're not the ony park to get that perticular ride. Practically every current theme park chain has cloned or reproduced a new type of attraction or innovative ride. How many hyperes did Cedar Fair go and build? Paramount has gone pretty far on the suspended coasters(first to build three of them), stand up(first to build built three of them), Arrow multiloopers(built FIVE of them), Shuttle loops(built three), Taxi Jam is everywhere...there ratio compared to Six Flags is even bigger and growing by the year. Ever noticed how when Paramount build coasters, they distribute the same type of coaster(usually clones) to 3+ of there parks within a 2-4 year period. Nice to know we're getting the same thing. BIG DEAL I was just happy enough before to have rides like Drop Zone, Top Gun, Sky Hawk, Invertigo, and Vortex in my backyard. No look where I am, sitting here with dormant Whalom Park. Where would you rather be:

Six Flags Marine World & Paramount Great America

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Cannobie Lake Park, Funtown Splashtown(few ocassions), and hoping sitting on 3rd Ave. waiting to see what happens to Whalom Park

If you knew anything about either side of the table, then the choice is obvious. Also note, on the top you two parks that some of you cal clone park and on the bottom you three original and traditional(did I mention boring) parks. It's easy to see that a clone thrill ride, is still a thrill and can greatly boost the park's thrill factor in any form.

While I don't think any coaster fan is a big fan of clones, I'm not opposed to them either. As someone else said these parks are regional, and the presence of the same or a similar coaster hundreds or thousands of miles away is irrelevant. Cloning gives people of all locales a chance to ride similar coasters. As for SF cloning more coasters, it is necessary when you have that many parks. It simply would not be fiscally responsible to have original designs for all the parks. SF is not opposed to original designs. SF has had a lot of the original ideas in recent coaster developments. Inverts: B:TR, 4D: X, Floorless: Medusa. I love all the parks regardless of the corp. that owns them. In the last three years my home park has changed from a Paramount Park (Carowinds) to a Busch Park (BGW) to SF parks (SFFT, SFoT, SFAW) and I'm happy they all exist.

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ravenguy98 said:
I'm not positve, but I don't think Whizzer or Iron Wolf are clones either, although I could be wrong.

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Well, there was another Whizzer at PGA, back when both parks were Marriott's. It has been long torn down though. There are a bunch of Jet Stars, which are similar, around too. I don't know where they have them now, but I remember the one at SCBB (torn down for the Hurricane), and one at Playland at PNE.

Wasn't Iron Wolf the very first B&M stand up? That means it can't be a clone. I believe Vortex at PGA is pretty close to being a clone of that.