First water coaster(revealed)

Nitro230

Friday, December 14, 2001 6:13 PM
The world's firsts water coaster was not actualy Atlantis,it was infact the world's first steel coaster,The Matterhorn at DisneyLand. I've looked at several pics and the ending has a splashdown at the bottom.

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Canadas Coaster Drew

Friday, December 14, 2001 6:20 PM
A "water coaster" is a hybrid between a log flume and a rollercoaster. There is a log flume section (no track) and then a rollercoaster section (or the other way around).  Just because there is a splash down dosen't make it a "water coaster" (in the general context)
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Incidentalist

Friday, December 14, 2001 6:44 PM
There are splashdowns on wooden coasters also, I believe there is one in the US.  As far as I know there are only three true water coasters: Journey to Atlantis, Buzzsaw Falls, and the new one in Europe.
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PointMan

Saturday, December 15, 2001 2:06 AM
Blazing Fury at Dollywood has a splashdown.
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V² Fiend

Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:01 PM
There is also Poseidon at Europa Park, and I believe I saw this one in Japan whose name escapes me.

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ALF is cool

Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:08 PM
I have a question about true water coasters, ok, if they have like a flume part...how do they get back on track properly?
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Rob

"The doctor said I wouldn't have as many nose bleeds if I could just keep my finger out of there!" -Ralph

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Ptboy11

Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:19 PM
Rob,

During that coasterthon they had on TLC, they showed how it worked.  Pretty simple, though I don't remember it too well.  Just think of the ends of the tracks like cones and the car is lined up with it and on it goes.  Similar to how rapids gets the boats onto the lift, it "lines it up" so it'll fit right.  That's what it basically does.

Now, how to they take care of splashdowns on woodies?  Must be hard.

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nasai

Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:17 PM
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You would think that splashdowns would be tremendously detrimental on coaster trains.  What do they do?  Wipe them down every pass???

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This is totally cool, if you ask me.

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CoasterFanMatt

Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:49 PM
I heard that mantenience on Matterhorn was pretty tough.  You can imagine what immersion in water every few minutes will do to metal coaster parts!

I don't really consider it a water coaster, however.  It is just regular track which is a little below the water's surface.

Some people call Perilous Plunge a water coaster.  I'm not one of them, but I can see why they say that.  The only part of the ride whice is actually in water is after the drop, the only time its not on a track is on the turnaround into the station.

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Valleyfair Fan

Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:13 AM
Would Adventureland's new coaster Saw Mill Splash be considered a water coaster or a coaster at all?
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DDFire19

Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:26 PM
It works like this.  The boats have wheels, the wheels are the three normal coaster wheels, except they are on the side of the boat instead of under it.  it uses the underwheels and guide wheels when floating through the water, but when it gets onto the track, it's like a tapered track at the beginning so it can get into position where the wheels are, then it gets to normal size so the wheels fit around it.  then it moves like a coaster.  It's very cool.  If I go to Sea World over winter break, I'll take some pics of JTA and put them on a website.  It makes a lot of sense if you really think about it, it's very hard to explain.
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CONNER

Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:45 PM
Here is a pic of Wildcat at Frontier City, It used to have a splash down at the end but they drained it.
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery155.htm?Picture=3

*** This post was edited by CONNER on 12/16/2001. ***

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Peabody

Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:53 PM
Valleyfair Fan, Saw Mill Slpash is not a coaster, it's a rapids ride.  Sorry.

Hey Conner, I thought that "splashdown" was a simulation.  Just like the splash that Anaconda makes when it goes underwater.  Can anyone confirm that it did indeed go underwater.  I have a hard time believing that wood track being submerged would work.

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CoasterFanMatt

Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:43 PM
Some are simulated splashdowns.  Like Big Thunder Mountain at Disneyland.  When the coaster goes over the track, it put pressure into jets of water which squirt out.

Matterhorn really does go through water!

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Peabody

Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:20 PM
Matterhorn really does go through the water.  As far as I know, it's the only one that REALLY does.  Can anyone offer solid evidence of another genuine splashdown that currently exists?  (Premier and Mack watercoasters excluded)
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mamba

Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:21 PM
The splashdown on Matterhorn is definently real.  After the splashdown leading into the station all the track is rusted and looks pretty bad.  I'm suprised Disney hasn't fixed that yet.

*** This post was edited by mamba on 12/16/2001. ***

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ALF is cool

Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:39 PM
it definetly is real, I went in November, and I rode front row of Matterhorn, and I got wet, I was soo pissed, because I didnt think I would get wet.
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Rob

"The doctor said I wouldn't have as many nose bleeds if I could just keep my finger out of there!" -Ralph

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Chernabog

Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:19 PM
The splash down on Disneyland's Matterhorn is actually designed as a braking system to bleed away excess energy from the cars as they finish up the ride. 

So, in that respect, it's a good thing; and isn't detrimental at all.

As far as water coasters are concerned - I was under the impression that they still ran on a track at the bottoms of their larger drops.   I'm not really familiar with them, so does this mean to suggest that there are other, log flume-like parts of the ride?

~ Michael ~

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rollergator

Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:29 PM
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PointMan, I got to ride Blazing Fury in '80 (World's Fair trip), thought it was a great fun dark ride/coaster...I'd love to ride it again.
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roomraider

Monday, December 17, 2001 5:30 AM
Hey

Even without the matterhorn JTA wasent yhe first Water Coaster. There are 2 in Jpana that have been there for years and years (early 80's)

http://www.coaster-network.com/bm/japan/water1.jpg

http://www.coaster-network.com/bm/japan/water2.jpg

http://www.coaster-network.com/bm/japan/water3.jpg

Although the corses are quite short with only 2 or 3 drops and then a flume section, They still can be considered as Water Coasters.

And there was even one much further back in the time of the classic coasters but i forget the name. anyone know it?

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