Nothing Enchanted about it

hambone:

Well, that’s 10%+ of their debt, and 10%+ less interest expense, which frees up more cash to pay more debt, and gets the snowball rolling downhill. You gotta start somewhere.

The concept of the debt snowball and creating momentum that makes it easier to pay off the next 10% works because you assume you'll have the same income. Yeah, they'll pay off 10% of their debt, but they're selling off income generating assets to do it. Tell me if I'm missing something.


Possible spin-off?

I thought this name on an earlier post was funny. Enchanted Parks Michigan’s Adventure sounds like a Craig's Cruisers type of place.

I think this is all to distract from the Epstein files. I mean, who’s talking about that now?

hambone's avatar

It depends on whether the profit from those parks exceeds the reduction in interest expense. Your point is fair. But I don’t agree that 10 percent of the debt is trivial, as you seemed to imply.

I haven't been in a Six Flags park in a long time. Is there anything "Enchanting" about them? I say that seriously. Maybe a different descriptor would have been better. (To be fair, I don't even think Epcot or Disney Studios qualify as "enchanting").


"You can dream, create, design, and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality." -Walt Disney

There’s a corner of Dollywood that would qualify as “enchanted”, and I can name a couple of European parks that are so “enchanted” it’s ridiculous. (Looking at you, my beautiful Efteling).

Is enchanting the same as charming or is it a slider perhaps?


Vater's avatar

Oooh...can't wait for the opening of Enchantland and its mascot, Benchy the park bench!

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MDOmnis:

If they were actually losing money, I think they would have been jettisoned a long time ago.

This reminds me of the "If Great Adventure needed a hotel, they would have built one already" fallacy.

At some point in the past decade, Six Flags America stopped turning a profit (I would guess 2019 was the last profitable year). It's not like 2024 was the first bad year and they called it a wrap. There has been a history of underperformance going back years. My assertion is that there are more "SFA's" still in the portfolio. For now.

It’s entirely possible that SFA was still profitable but the lump sum payment for the land was far more attractive to Six Flags.

hambone's avatar

When are they going to open Disenchantmentland?

OhioStater's avatar

Is "Enchanted Parks" a company, or is this just a strange re-brand?


Promoter of fog.

I'm thinking the trademarks are prep for a company buying the parks from Six Flags.

Someone doing their work early before the actual purchase unless the deal is done and waiting for something to occur before being announced.


Watch the tram car please....
ApolloAndy's avatar

They could call it a mix of two of the parks in the new chain, like, I don't know "Valley Point."


Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

hambone's avatar

The Great Escape from Fun

LostKause's avatar

What perplexes me is how are they allowed to buy trademarks for parks that already have a trademark, changing it by simply adding Enchanted Parks to the name? For example, Michigan's Adventure is already trademarked, so how are they able to get a trademark for it just by adding Enchanted Parks to it?

Because I want to start my own soda pop business. I want to call it Travis' Pepsi.


My experience is very limited, so I'm possibly off base here, but I think if there's a conflicting trademark the owner of the existing trademark is consulted before approval is issued.


And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

Trademark application probably listed as pending purchase of existing property.


Watch the tram car please....

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