Aerosmith removed from roller coaster preshow at Disney's Hollywood Studios

Also proves that one person (Bob Rock) can strike gold at one time (Black album) and make poop another (St. Anger).

https://www.instagram.com/r...IwNjQ2YQ==

Lars is a weird and stubborn dude. I saw Metallica in 2018 and the number of times Lars was out of sync with the band was surprising. If you told me Hammett, Tulio, and Hetfield were using a click track and Lars wasn't I would not be surprised.

Lars's inability to keep time is legendary.

Yet he never seems to be out of time on a record. Hmmm.

I've poo-pooed on Lars for a long time. But his drum work on their most recent album, 72 Seasons, is some of my favorite I've ever heard.

He still does that weird thing with his nose in recent interviews though. Sticks it way up in the air.

The rest of the guys are really awesome though. Inspiring, even.

I'll toss a bone to Scott Litt as being one of my favorite producers. He parted ways with REM after Bill Berry had his aneurysm and left full-time drumming duties; he took their sound from something you would only find on underground college radio and helped them polish it into something special, while never losing their quirkiness.

Stipe (and the rest of REM) and Cobain were really close, and someone above mentioned In Utero as being "abrasive"...Scott Litt produced Heart Shaped Box and All Apologies, which are probably the least abrasive songs on that album.

That’s interesting. I was going to mention this but didn’t for clarity. Their top 10 on Apple Music is mostly Nevermind. Those are the only 2 songs from In Utero and they stand out from the rest of the record. I wouldn’t be shocked if the label made them go back and record something they thought would work on the radio.

Ha Ha

In a 2013 Rolling Stone interview with Fricke, Grohl recalled that "everyone was concerned about the tempo of 'Heart-Shaped Box.' But click trackswere not cool.

According to Wikipedia they were both recorded by Albini but they went back into the studio to mix and layer because they weren’t happy how either turned out.

Veering from the music production back to AI and this is possibly a news item on its own, but...

Disney is on board with the AI thing:

The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI reach landmark agreement to bring beloved characters from across Disney’s brands to Sora

• As part of this three-year licensing agreement, Sora will be able to generate short, user-prompted social videos that can be viewed and shared by fans, drawing on more than 200 Disney, Marvel, Pixar and Star Wars characters.
• Agreement will make a selection of these fan-inspired Sora short form videos available to stream on Disney+.
• Disney and OpenAI affirm a shared commitment to responsible use of AI that protects the safety of users and the rights of creators.
• Alongside the licensing agreement, Disney will become a major customer of OpenAI, using its APIs to build new products, tools, and experiences, including for Disney+, and deploying ChatGPT for its employees.
• As part of the agreement, Disney will make a $1 billion equity investment in OpenAI, and receive warrants to purchase additional equity.

So now maybe I can make people beat up actual Muppets for my posts, not just the look-alikes.

Final date for current (pre-show-free) version: March 1st.

https://www.wdwmagic.com/at...osmith.htm

I'll be there that week. I probably won't try to ride it on the 1st itself, but will see if I can get one last lap.

Lord Gonchar:

Disney is on board with the AI thing:

I mean, freaking everyone is on board with the AI thing. I was laid off last month (thanks, company I gave 12 years of my life to) and half the open tech positions in my job search are AI related. And one of the reasons my former company is having problems is because its competitors jumped on the AI bandwagon a lot sooner. And much of my resume and cover letters are AI generated. And I got a callback for one job from Jeni, a "virtual recruiting assistant" who wants to discuss details about the job, I guess before I get to talk to real people.

Kinda wish Miles Dyson would just drop the detonator already.

Disney's investment is weird. They're not going to allow people to do weird **** with their IP, and they've explicitly said they're not embracing virtual actors or voice.

There's a huge bubble coming with everything AI. The investment levels don't make sense. LLM's are being used as general purpose things, which is inefficient and often of dubious quality. Many are looking at them as human replacements instead of tools that make humans more productive, which is a mistake. There are people paying for some of the tools professionally, but general consumers are just playing for free.

Re: investment levels. There are three different data centers being proposed within a 40 minute drive of me---and the local power utility is trying to fast-track approvals for all of them, despite some genuine concerns about peak capacity. "Build it and we'll have to grow" seems to be the strategy.

The Butlerian Jihad makes a lot more sense now.

It should be illegal to open a data center without covering it in solar panels.

Jeff:

They're not going to allow people to do weird **** with their IP, and they've explicitly said they're not embracing virtual actors or voice.

Gonna go a little sideways.

In a nutshell - if people are going to generate content, it might as well be yours. (and this is an early attempt to control it)

A bunch of different thoughts converging here.

The future of entertainment is even more fractured than it is now when compared to our childhoods. Once the whole AI thing really gets sorted out, it will fracture to the individual level. We'll watch shows and listen to music generated specifically to our taste. Disney wants that to be with their IP - which then they presumably get paid for. (in my future model)

From there, we'll be able to share the episodes or movies we make with these characters. Probably a big disney database/site with a front page and stuff voted up. At that point, Disney will gladly take the best and show them on Disney+

Music is coming even quicker. Imagine an AI trained solely on a signle artist with licensing intent. You can make your own Garbage songs now, Jeff! And they'll get a fraction of a penny every time you do - just like Spotify pays out. If it's good enough, they'll release it on their platforms. Or create a similar database...or the label will...or someone will.

It's remix society (where we are now), taken to the next level.

Every time a disruptive technology comes along, the entertainment compaines/industries that don't figure out how to play along, fall behind. Disney ain't dumb.

It's going to get real weird even faster than it already is.

Jeff:
Many are looking at them as human replacements instead of tools that make humans more productive, which is a mistake.

Agreed 100%...for now.

They are reopening Three Mile Island for data center power.

Lord Gonchar:

We'll watch shows and listen to music generated specifically to our taste.

You've said this before and I think it's bat****. Are you talking 200 years from now or within our lifetime? Maybe they'll create something and expect other people to consume it but the idea that someone is going to have an A.I. create something that only they listen to or watch is wild.

GoBucks89:
They are reopening Three Mile Island for data center power.

This is what made me take a step back and really consider what's going on. It's absurd and disheartening to think about.

People are social and like to talk about shared experiences. Look at the huge following and forums for all the popular TV shows, bands, etc. You lose that if everyone is getting their own, separate experiences, and trying to share those individual experiences with others would be like a worse version of "Hey, check out my vacation pics!"

I think entertainment will get more fractured to an extent, but you still need a critical mass of people into whatever before it becomes interesting.

Lord Gonchar:

You can make your own Garbage songs now, Jeff!

We already could! Remember that loop software from 20-something years ago? Garbage put out a set of loops for it, and I made MF Theme. What was interesting about this is that creative humans were still at the center of it all, using software as a tool. I'm not sure exactly if AI is a "good" tool relative to the output.

A "remix society" isn't that interesting. There's a reason that remixes rarely exceed the popularity of the originals, and therein lies the problem I mentioned earlier. Everything in AI is derivative. It's all based on existing stuff, and if the original stuff disappears, it's a self-feeding cycle of crap.

We'll watch shows and listen to music generated specifically to our taste.

This experiment has already been in practice for years, and it isn't great. I think Pandora was the first go at it, and it never really caught on because the output kind of sucked. Now imagine the same only with generated stuff, and you'll get a homogenous swirl of crap. Sometimes we end up liking things that we could not have possibly expected to like. If you would've told me that I'd love a musical based on an ancient Greek tragedy (Hadestown), I would have said that's stupid.

Let's not mistake coherent output for creativity.

eightdotthree:

Are you talking 200 years from now or within our lifetime?

Sooner than later. (on the scale of "our lifetime - 200 years")

eightdotthree:
the idea that someone is going to have an A.I. create something that only they listen to or watch is wild.

Interesting. You don't do anything just for you?

Honestly, I do this with music already. I have a small library of songs I've generated that I have no intent on sharing anytime soon (like I do with the nonsense music that I actually put 'work' into) that I listen to quite regularly - terrific shower music.

And it's happening on the AI sites. They're already huge communities with front pages and upvotes and celebrites and contests. It's an entire ecosystem. I'm just extrapolating.

But that's more general. It'd also be more like getting on Spotify and telling it you want to hear your favorite band and you're feeeling X or you'd like to hear a ballad from your favorite band or you'd like to hear your favorite singer do a song with your favorite band or things I can't even imagine. Trust me, if an artist (or whoever owns that artist's work) can make another stream of money off that in perpetuity for doing nothing...honestly, I'm surprised someone hasn't tried it yet. I think the AI-created stigma is still too strong.

Or radio that is just a continuously generated stream on the fly that changes the music based on simple voice commands. "Faster, slower, heavier, different vocalist, add a horn section - literally ANYTHING you could think of." (And whoever develops that owes me something)

...and everything in between.

metallik:
People are social and like to talk about shared experiences.

People are social and love to talk about themselves.

It wouldn't be any different than social media. In fact, you'll get a lot of blur in this direction too.

metallik:
I think entertainment will get more fractured to an extent, but you still need a critical mass of people into whatever before it becomes interesting.

It would be the equivalent of "going viral" - "Man, everyone knows that show/song/movie!"

We've shifted where the 'collective experience' can happen already. This is just more of the same. Hell, Netflix has a daily Top 10. We've already socialized and gamed the entertainment. Now you do the same to the creation.

And big money WILL get involved. Well, I mean we're only having this conversation because big money got involved...and completely signaled their intent. All I'm really doing it putting the pieces together and acting smart.

Disney has said they want to put fan created AI pieces using their IPs on Disney+. It's in the release.

There's your first baby step in mainstream way - a curated collection on Disney+.

(All of this comes with the caveat that it's not a replacement - people still watch OTA television)

Jeff:
A "remix society" isn't that interesting.

We're already in it. And it's only going to get worse, the easier it is to do.

Jeff:
This experiment has already been in practice for years,

Exactly. So why would it stop now? It's how a generation knows consumption.

Jeff:
Sometimes we end up liking things that we could not have possibly expected to like. If you would've told me that I'd love a musical based on an ancient Greek tragedy (Hadestown), I would have said that's stupid.

Again, like you said. It's already happening. Most of what people consume is algorithm - which just feeds you what it knows you like. No one seems to mind. I doubt that'll change.

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I love the faith the room has in the general population to stand up to the path of least resistance.

There's a first time for everything, I suppose.

Lord Gonchar:

Interesting. You don't do anything just for you?

I listen back to bands I was in for a trip down memory lane but I don’t listen to it on my (non-existent) commute.

Lord Gonchar:
Disney has said they want to put fan created AI pieces using their IPs on Disney+

But that’s sharing and I doubt anyone is going to care outside of a few clips that are stuck behind their paywall. It’s **** CEOs are being sold.

Meh. Maybe I’ll be wrong. But the quality of these models are declining in my experience.