YoYos and Waveswingers

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:01 AM
I've been on plenty of Waveswingers, but never a Chance YoYo. Is there a difference, or is a YoYo just a smaller version of the Waveswinger concept?

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:05 AM
YoYo's do seem smaller than Waveswingers... Not too sure about Waveswingers but YoYos have 32 seats, and just barely tip to the side (or at least SFoT's does). In addition, they should all be destroyed.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:11 AM
Wavae Swingers usually come with 48 swings (the popular version) however Zierer also made a 16, and 32 swing version, and also a 64 person version which contains 32 double swings.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:37 PM
Brandon: It's always a pleasure to hear your negativity. You simply amaze me.

Wave Swingers (Zeirer) and Flying Carousels (Zamperla) are significantly different than the Yo-Yo's (Chance). The WS and FC both rise up on a hydrolic column, tilting at a slight angle and rotates. the center sweeps rotate as well, giving the ride a unique up and down motion. Instead of a rising column, the Yo Yo arms raise up to a 15' position and the ride begins to turn. under the main rotation, a hydrolic gear will tilt the main bearing and sweeps. This gives the rides a similar drop-and-fall sensation.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:21 PM
What's so negative? Me thinking all yoyo's should be destroyed? I only think that because I've had to operate SFoT's one too many times... I hate that ride, as would you if you had to put up with all the idiots who kick the chairs in front of them and unbuckle their seatbelt mid-ride.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:28 PM
Actually, in that logic, why don't you think Waveswingers should be destroyed. It's not like stupid people don't do that on Waveswingers
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:35 PM
I've never had to operate a Waveswinger for hours on end in the pouring rain though, so I'm a little less prejudice against it. :)

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:38 PM

Dude, I can tell you this.

I like Waveswingers. I love Yo-Yo's

Waveswingers are fast and create a kinda flying/floating sensation but there is little action to the rides except for a slight up and down swing.

Yo-Yo's Can be rocked and this rocking action can be cause for almost shear terror. Even though it is not really unsafe, The feeling of almost being dropped out face first is awesome.

Not to mention if more than one of ya are rocking, it can create a bumper swings :)

Chuck, not recomending unsafe riding practices but it's fun!

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Charles Nungester.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:41 PM
The Vekoma version doesn't have brakes so when people sit down it starts to move backwards and then the people decide to start pushing it and that thing flies.

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J.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:17 PM
I assume SFGAm's Whirligig is a Wave Swinger, and I'm almost 100% certain that Bay Beach's (a stupid little amusement park in Green Bay) YoYo is a Chance YoYo. So, based on that, I'd say the YoYo is better, because as someone said, it feels more like you're going to fall out or tip forward or backward or something that isn't good. Even so, though, Wave Swingers are fun rides, too. They are more relaxing, and I find them to have more comfortable seats.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:25 PM
Yeah the Yo-Yo at (back then) Geauga Lake TERRIFIED me when I was a kid. Due to the unusual rocking of the seats, I really felt that I was going to fall out. My neighbor was taping us while I was riding and I had a look of sheer terror on my face through the whole ride.

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Brent Haley
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:31 PM
I have had a Waveswinger experience unlike any other. At my local fair the ride ops were either slap-happy or on something...probably the latter. But anyway, they let the WS rotate first for a good while. It was setting on a raised platform so there was plenty of clearance over the crowds. Then later on they let it raise and tilt. This is opposed to every other time I've ridden a WS (and that's a lot in a lot of different places) where they raise the swings then start to rotate after that. Well the fair-method was far more intense! The swing-outs were to the limit and I was scared at times, which was a new sensation to me on a WS. I guess my point/wish is that parks would do it the rotate-rise-swingout style rather than the traditional way.
And I admit that I like the Yo-Yo ride as well. There's one at Dollywood I know...doesn't PKI have one as well? Maybe im thinking of SFOG.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:37 PM
If you want an "Insane" Yo Yo, go to MI Adv.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:14 PM

john peck said:
If you want an "Insane" Yo Yo, go to MI Adv.


Sorry, IB's is better and hangs out over the water some 40ft below.

Chuck, who would love to see some Flying Skooters over that lake as well :)

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Charles Nungester.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:38 PM

BrandonR said:
" I only think that because I've had to operate SFoT's one too many times... "

Why the hell did you take the job then?
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:05 PM

IB's was darn fine, the water at night is beautiful...the only other YoYo I recall riding right now is WA....(Cheetah, Chuck?....how about Chuck E. Cheetah, Chuck 'N' Cheetah?)....

Having trouble recalling the model of Dutch Wonderland's "swingset"...

I have ALWAYS loved Wave Swingers, and can't wait to try my first Flying Carousel....(whenever that might happen)...:)

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:09 PM
I'm surprised that nobody pointed out the major design difference which causes the Yo-Yo to give its unusual ride...

Most swing rides, such as the Wave Swinger, Italian Trapeeze, Watkins Swinger, whatever...the four suspender chains from the swing converge on the ends of a spreader bar of some sort. On the Wave Swinger, this is a steel plate that looks like an inverted "T", with the two left-hand chains attached to the left side, the two right hand chains attached to the right side, and the center attached to the ride frame by means of a large S-hook.

The Yo-Yo is very different. On the Yo-Yo, again, each swing is suspended from four chains. But instead of converging on a crossbar directly above the swing, the two front chains converge and attach to the sweep ahead of the swing, while the rear chains converge and attach to the sweep behind the swing. By the way, this is the same basic suspension configuration as a Flying Scooter.
It is this chain configuration that causes the wild rocking action when the head tilts.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
edit: Removed a redundancy caused by typing in a too-small edit window.

*** This post was edited by RideMan on 11/14/2002. ***

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:21 PM

As Rideman pointed out, The action of a Yo-Yo is simular to flying scooters. When you rock them you can get burst of acceleration.

Rollergator, You mentioned WA's Yo-Yo and at that time, I hadn't discovered what a good ride it is and didn't ride WA's. The more I searched that park, the more I liked it and discovered all the little things people miss. I am sure I am still missing a lot.

Yes, I was sorta on my own personal Cheetah Marathon, Some may not like it, I loved it. I gladly accepted them thigh bruises for the insane latteral airtime that thing gives, Not to mention that little bunny after the first drop that has probably one of the longest floating headchopping moments in coaster history :)

Chuck

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Charles Nungester.
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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:24 PM
TrBiggar: And I thought I was the only one on this board to ever visit Bay Beach! Dinky park but you cannot beat the prices... (where else can you ride a Chance YoYo for 20 cents a ride?)

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:00 PM
So basically, the ride you get on a Yo-Yo depends on how much you can rock the swing, whereas a Waveswinger doesn't allow for much "interactivity?"
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