You can NOW save scenery with Coasters/Rides

In all the talked about Soaked, i did not hear this, but saw it and tried it. There is now a button that lets you select land squares. Then it saves all scenery on those squares when you save the ride.

I know that was one problem that people had with 3 when it came out. That the only way you could save your awesome stations was by saving the building seperately and then you couldnt pop the building and ride down over top each other. This led to all the save game and very little TRACK files coming out for RCT3. This should/could change all that.

Well it'll make Gonchar happy, but who knows if he'll actually ever buy the game! I know I'm waiting. Might not buy it at all.

Coasterbuf passed that info along a while ago. Good that they added it, but still not enough to make me rush out and find a copy.

I'll get to it eventually.

From what I understand scenery still can't be placed along the edge of a path square. I don't like having to think so big. My thing is kind of cramped, tight designs.

As it stands if I build a woodie, I have to allow a square's worth of space to fence it off or the supports don't touch ground and then allow another square for any path near the ride.

To me it just compounds the trouble most people have with large parks running on their PC. Everything needs to be bigger, but the bigger things get, the worse the game runs.

Still want to mess with those waterfalls though. :)

I haven't even tried saving scenery with any track files yet. I've been working on a park to put up here.

Gonch, there's a cheat you can put in so you can build on the paths. It comes in very handy. And yes, the waterfalls are fun but are hard to get. You'll understand someday. :) *** Edited 7/13/2005 4:51:44 PM UTC by Corkscrewy***

"From what I understand scenery still can't be placed along the edge of a path square."

That is one of my peeves about the game. It's really annoying when it comes to walls and fences.

An annoyance, but something that I can live with... the supports for Log Flumes look like supports for wooden coasters. Some real flumes do have this sort of structure... but many more have the steel post supports that you hardly even notice.

Also... STILL no Tilt-A-Whirl, Paratrooper or Whip, while at the same time having not one but two versions of the Sky Wheel (Any of these things still even operating?).

All that being said... I'll admit that it is not as bad as I first thought and I've warmed up to the new game considerably from my first negative reaction. *** Edited 7/13/2005 7:29:12 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

OH beleive me, there's more to come, as to what or if they can improve the game engine is a whole nother deal. I heard they want to release quite a bit of expansions with this game...theres only one thing they can do is add and improve gameplay and options everyone wants. Seriously this new expansion which is more of an addon has alot of feautures I want that would be worth buying, but I'll wait till the price drops, release prices are outrageous in my opinion. Unless you have the money and don't care. I can live with all the new stuff

The only ride truely missing from Soaked that should have been included would have been a clam shell themed Tilt-A-Whirl. It would have fit in perfectly with the theme.

As for the other rides, well...got to save something for future expansions!

Glad to see more people warming up to the game. See? I told all of you it would be better. It's actually a good deal of fun now. I find myself enjoying the waterpark side of things way more then I thought I would. And I think the more they add in to it, the more interesting it will become too. Just like the first RCT did (but not the second!)

But perhaps the best news of all (for Gonchar)is that there's NO PEE IN THE POOLS. LOL

Yea, I haven't seen one little guy accidently do the do in the pool yet. Its amazing. ;) I haven't really been watching for it but. The waterparks are pretty fun. Just trying to make other things with them. Does anybody else get mad at the waterfalls sometimes. Its like you have to have it perfectly lined up to do it. Oh well, I'll get it perfectly down eventually. :)

Actually, Gonch, 'those waterfalls' are harder than anything else in the game to do. I can have a perfectly fine setting for one, with everything the way it says to, and It gives me an error and says I need to do something else. I thought it was just me, but I went into a scenario, deleted a waterfall and tried to put it back. Guess what happend?

Same error message. On a Scenario. Where nothing was changed from when I opened it up and deleted the waterfall that was already placed there by the programmers. I have a feeling they just 'forced the code' to put a waterfall there, cause it sure wouldn't go back to it!

Thats kind of a jip. They should make it a bit easier.

Happened to pass an EB Games today and decided to stop in. Ended up leaving with a copy of Soaked.

Let me sit down with it later tonight and find some things to complain about. :)

Sellout. ;)

OH, here comes Gonch's list...hope everyone is prepared for this! ;)

Nah. No list.

I've played with it a little. I still want more time with it, but my initial reaction is...

meh.

Nothing has changed as far as gameplay, they just added more stuff to do. If you already don't care for the game, this is just more stuff to do within those same boundaries.

For me, it'll add a little life to things. I might do some one-off coasters with scenery for people to use. Still doesn't change much in the long run.

Ok, maybe a little list of some things (again, based on little time with the game):

- Building a pool complex is even more tedious than building the stuff previously in the game (yup, I didn't think it was possible either) - down to adding each little pool light and ladder. I'm sure a certain type of person digs this, but my enthusiasm wears thin long before I can get my 'vision' down on the map.

- The aquarium seemed like something with potential. As far as I can tell at this point, it works just like the mini-golf. Build some path and then pick one of 5 pre-fab pieces, build more path, drop another pre-fab. The same way you toss together a mini-golf course.

- The waterfalls are cool. I didn't think it was too hard to get them set up. But even still, beyond overusing them in the next park I put together, its just a way to break the visual monotony.

- The new laser, water, whale and dolphin shows. Work just like the fireworks did. Either you like that sort of thing and these are welcome additions to expand your creativity or you're like me and found the fireworks mixmaster to be a lesson in patience. These new items under the mixmaster work the same way (except with about a gazillion new options for each thing) - plenty of control/customization, little fun in the (hate to use this word again, but...) tedious nature of putting it together.

- I dunno. What else? Two new themes. Yup - all two of them. Some new drop and forget flats are in there.

- Performance hasn't changed either way on my system.

Again, let me stress this is a very initial reaction. I've only been piddling around for an hour or so. I did the tutorials real quick too. I plan on spending more time with it tonight after everyone goes to bed.

Not sure what I expected, but it really does just throw new things to toy with into the same old RCT3 world. If you didn't like the game before, I don't see how Soaked will change your opinion. It plays exactly the same. If you liked the game and just wished there was more to mess with, then Soaked will appease you until the next expansion/add-on.

Right now, I think it'll add a little playlife just on the new things to mess with. However, I expect to lose interest again rather quickly.

At least I can do my one-off coasters with scenery attached. The only problem is that I believe (not sure) that the end user would also need Soaked to open the file with scenery and to be honest, I wouldn't drop the cash just for that added feature (which should've been part of the game in the first place)

Initial Verdict: meh

I have to agree about the "meh".

If you look behind the veneer of the added stuff, its actually "wacky worlds" in 3d.

How many broken vases does the Atlantis theme offer?! Why didn´t they add a vase-mixmaster in the first place?

Gonch, that looks like a list to me! ;) These are just features that should of been there. This whole game requires patience.

I have been playing it more now with soaked, but it is def. still 'meh'. Still can't do Volcano with the impulse. Still need steeper drops on the Intamin Hypers. Still can't do anything with the Rocket. Hey, instead of just adding a new coaster type, why not add stuff to the rocket and put a new train type, idiots! No vertical loops. no overbanks. How bout all the stuff thats on the 45* plane on the regular plane as well, and Vice Versa?

I'm still not happy, but I'm pacified.

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tricktrack said:
Why didn´t they add a vase-mixmaster in the first place?

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Funniest comment ever in the RCT forum at CoasterBuzz.

Soaked doesn't add much. I've been playing a lot and working on a park. It's the same old, same old with some new eye candy.

All I find myself doing is overusing the waterfall and tunnel features and dropping the new flats instead of the old ones.

The new themes/building pieces are just as limited (and limiting) as the originals.

Worth it to add a little extra life to the game for someone who wants to like it - not worth it if you expect any fundamental game changes at all.

I'm building a killer park in RCT2 and having no troubles. I made a killer terrain twister/onb hybrid [no, its not inspired by Voyage]. If anyone wants to see the park when its done lemme know.

No RCT3 for me. I'll stick to RCT2, thanks ;)

Good. You do that while I have fun with three. LOL. Although at least you are still playing RCT2 which is more then I can say for some people who don't like 3 and no longer like 1 or 2 anymore either..makes me wonder what they're playing.

And Gonchar, I have to wonder what you thought of the expansions for even RCT 1 since those were also same old same old with new eye candy. I take exception that Soaked doesn't add much. Someone even compared all the expansions to one another and found that RCT3+soaked added more rides then either RCT1+expansions or RCT2+expansions which surprised me, but it's true. So I have a hard time understanding how you can say it doesn't add much. Maybe you meant add much VALUE. Which would be subjective and each person would have a different view on the worth but would make sense. I could see that arugument. I'd disagree with it, because I think Soaked makes the game MUCH more enjoyable, but I could see it. LOL

But at least there's no pee in the pool right Gonchar? lol