Xcelerator structure problems?

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:55 AM
http://www.westcoaster.net/update.php?id=0217031

looks like more supports have arrived for xcelerator! some kind of structural problem perhaps?

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:48 AM
Looks like things are shifting/tilting and those devices are to help pull it back into place.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:08 AM
My guess would be diagonal bracing on the towers or perhaps a triangular support for the tophat. Don't look for any work to be done until post-Solace.

Moosh

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:36 AM
Rumors have it that CP will be adding extra supports to Wicked Twister. Perhaps the tower design used on both of these rides just ain't up to snuff??

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:46 AM
From the looks of it, it almost appears that they are adding cables to supports somewhere... It's not very clear right now, but I'm suprised that they are doing support mods to Xcelerator. Maybe they missed something, or Cedar Fair is concerned with vortex shredding...

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:00 PM
Gosh, sure hope they aren't going to need anything else for TTD and we find this out in the middle of the season!
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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:51 PM
Dragster tower isn't going anywhere. It is rock solid and extremely bulky. They didn't let that concrete cure for 6 months for nothing.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:08 PM
I agree, Dragster shouldn't have any structural problems. It looks like it might actually suffer from over support. Xcelerator on the other hand (along with any impulse) just looks flimsy. It's just too much track sticking up there without any support.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:11 PM
geneticfreak - the way Intamin box track is structured means it can span longer areas without support. There is nothing unsafe about it.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:13 PM
I don't think thats what he meant Moosh.

I do think the way the towers sway may lead to stress fracture problems eventually.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:18 PM
Brent - he specifically mentioned lack of support.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:40 PM
He never said it was unsafe though, thats what I meant.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:48 PM
True, he never used the word unsafe but he said flimsy, which IMO implies unsafe.

Anyway I'm sure we're both in agreement that despite how it looks it is neither flimsy nor unsafe ;)

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:03 PM
Any word on when (if) Xcelerator would go down for these "repairs" or if they'd pull a Wicked Twister and do it at night?

[edit: I just got off the phone with Knott's. They said Xcelerator is not scheduled to go down any time soon. Although they seem to deny the fact that they have parts sitting in their parking lot. Gosh, I hope it's open the week of March 10th...]

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:14 PM
I thought I heard the train got stuck up on the top of the tower between a track joiner that had shifted. All of you have heard of the dropping of bolts that the structure is well known for... both of these "mishaps" could be cause for a need for extra support.
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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:29 PM
Very true Moosh

I always use the idea of bending a green stick. Well sure it doesn't break. But eventually it gets weaker, we saw what this can lead to on WT before it was stiffened.

I think it move a bit more then they were expecting.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:14 PM
well after looking at those pieces for awhile i'm bettin that its going to be some bracing for the center of the tophat.... they look like they'll be clamped onto the existing supports to avoid having to dig additional footers.... my guess is that those cable-like things will be the part to actually connect to the track, thus allowing it some movement.

at least that's my prediction :)

goliathkills: i'm pretty sure if a train got stuck up there the whole thing woulda come down. think about it.... a multi-ton train sitting on several hundred feet of unsupported track.... a gust of wind and the whole structure would suffer massive stress fractures if it even survived at all with that much weight being blown around on top of it. its only designed to handle the train for a few seconds during each crest and descent. plus it'd be pretty stressful on the structure to begin with if a train just came to a dead halt all of the sudden

hmm... yeah i wonder what'll happen to WT? those pics i saw last season w/ the new crossmembers being welded on didnt look too promising.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:29 PM
JD. I'm pretty sure that the track is strong enough to hold the train at any point. I can't imagine engineering that thing without taking making it at least that strong. The box track is pretty darn strong as is.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:54 PM
Yes, it very well may be a rumor, but the track should be able to hold. The track could come just a little out of alignment and may be able to stop the train when it is moving at such slow speeds as it does when cresting the top hat.
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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:35 PM

GoliathKills said:
Yes, it very well may be a rumor, but the track should be able to hold. The track could come just a little out of alignment and may be able to stop the train when it is moving at such slow speeds as it does when cresting the top hat.

Especially when there are 12 wheel assemblies rolling over that mis-alignment.

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