Xcelearators Supports?

Why did they take off Xecelerators supports? Did they line them up wrong? Does anyone know?

My assumption would be that it has to do with the city. They probably did not have full approval or something of that sort.

-Jeff

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How dumb do you get? They have all the supports and track, and they didnt have approval of the city, come on Knott's think more!!!!!!

Yeah, Knott's is pretty stupid. I said the same thing like 3 weeks back regarding them having all the track there (almost all the track really) and not even having permission from the city to even put a freakin support up. Shows how stupid KBF and CF can be.

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Hey, who knows. Maybe there was an unofficial understanding of agreement then something changed or something was realized or perhaps there was an extra layer of beauracracy (sp totally off) they had to sift through. Dealing with government at any level isn't the most efficient machine ;-)

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Or, like it was said in another thread, the station plans were from another contractor and they had to double check the height.

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Do you guys really think they just forgot or something? "Oh hey, let's build a multi-million dollar attraction... yea, we'll get around to that simple permit when we get a chance..."

My bet is City Council hasn't even reviewed the application yet. It's sitting on a desk somewhere in the local government. Cedar Fair sees no reason why it would be denied, so they go ahead and have all the parts shipped. Yea, that's real dumb if you ask me... Comon, parks will do anything to have rides ready by the date the set to open them. Right now, Knott's is doing what they can while all the paperwork is processed.

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Jes
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Do you guys really think they just forgot or something? "Oh hey, let's build a multi-million dollar attraction... yea, we'll get around to that simple permit when we get a chance..."

SFMW seemed to use that strategy with V2...;)

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A lot depends on the local permiting process. First you have to get zoning/planning approval. Later stages of the permiting process can involve sign offs on foundation details, electrical design, etc. At this point you know you are going to get the permit, you are just waiting to get the details ironed out. It's fine to have stuff on order and even delivered sitting in the parking lot. But, you do have to remember not to install it until you have the permit. If you do get ahead of things it really upsets the building officials and can make your permit take even longer. Also, you may have to pay fines.

... and they got away with it for a year... Six Flags is no Cedar Fair. CF isn't gonna build it illegally.

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Jes
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"Thank You Jeff Putz"

They were fitting track and supports... nothing more nothing less.. I did like Jim Fishers Comments though, good job :)

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Did it ever occur to someone that something didn't fit correctly? I am willing to bet anything that Knotts has had their paperwork completed for quite some time now.

Zero-G said:

Do you guys really think they just forgot or something? "Oh hey, let's build a multi-million dollar attraction... yea, we'll get around to that simple permit when we get a chance..."

Hehehe... Leave that to Six Flags Mexico ;)

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Ya know Rob, with today's advanced technology, I'd only believe that would be the case if you were talking about one of the cement footers. All the parts are created to the thousandth of an inch, so accuracy is very high.

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Jes
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If you believe that bent and welded parts are toleranced to the thousandth, you're fooling yourself

machined parts are toleranced to the thousandth

fabricated parts like braces are high thousandth low hundredth, depending. Higher tolerances just cost more for no real reason. Individual track sections I wouldn't be at all suprised if the spec was more than .050 for width and .125 or greater for length.

I've got the taped interview with a Morgan factory worker who says that it's to the .001th. Something about laser technology to cut the parts... I'm not claiming to know anything about it. I just know that's what he (basically) said.

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Zero-G said:

Ya know Rob, with today's advanced technology, I'd only believe that would be the case if you were talking about one of the cement footers. All the parts are created to the thousandth of an inch, so accuracy is very high.
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Jes
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"Thank You Jeff Putz"

Do i even have to Mention X to you and all the probs we had getting the trains to work?

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Zero-G said:

yea, we'll get around to that simple permit when we get a chance..."

Hey, it worked for IB...;)

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Building any high ride at Knotts is a pain. All it takes is one person from the surrounding neigborhood to file a complaint during the permitting process to stall things. When we were shown the parts in the emp. lot, we were asked to keep it down lest the neighbors complain. This was before 9:00 PM. It's like walking on eggshells. I'm sure if they could CF would start buying up property around the park and clear it.

Zero-G said:
I've got the taped interview with a Morgan factory worker who says that it's to the .001th. Something about laser technology to cut the parts... I'm not claiming to know anything about it. I just know that's what he (basically) said.
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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes MCS
"Thank You Jeff Putz"

Yes, machined parts will have tolerances of thousandths. Assemblies of said parts will NOT. I'm not even certain you could hold .001 for an entire roller coaster given a billion dollars. Welding that precisely is possible, but we're talking roboticly for the pressure vessels of nuclear reactors, and that sort of process takes a robot days per part.

Even if they could you think your assembly guys who are working by hand with cranes can align to .001?