Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:26 PM
I'll be in LA on Saturday, Nov 13 and I am thinking of going to SFMM for the first time. How consistently is X running? How many trains? Does it open on time? I tried searching for related threads but found very little within the past year.

Also, if anyone has a good plan of attack for a first time visit to the mountain, I'd love to hear it.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:40 PM
Did you check the trip reports section?

Although I have not been to the Mountain since January I have read enough recent trip reports to give you an idea.

X - fairly reliable operation during the summer. Since you're going in the off-season and not around a holiday its possible the ride will be closed for maintenence. If it is open, expect single train op and long lines.

Plan of attack - X first, then Deja, then Superman. Those are the capacity nightmares...after that you should have no problem.

Are you sure you wouldn't rather go to Knotts instead? ;)

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:52 PM
Whoa, great idea moosh! I might have to hit both parks. Now all I need is for Silver Bullet to be open!
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:58 PM
Silver Bullet opens Dec 7th, but if you're in LA for a few days it would be a crime [IMHO] to hit SFMM and skip Knotts or Disney or California Adventure.

I also suggest you read these recent threads:

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=39965

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=39854

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=39930

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=39864

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:12 PM
Before you go bashing SFMM, Knott's operations have also been less than desirable recently. Both parks are going down the drain and that saddens me.

Anyways, X has been running very well recently from what I have heard and from experience. I cannot predict the number of trains that X will be running but I suspect that on Saturdays, there will be 2 trains and just 1 on Sundays. It is SFMM that we are talking about so anything could happen (ie. one train both days, two trains both days). Just be prepared to wait in one of the slowest moving lines of all time for a roller coaster no matter what when you queue up for X.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:23 PM
I still haven't ridden X, but isn't there a queue "trick" by picking one side over the other... one that is significantly faster?

That might help poor Rollerhammer. ;)

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:25 PM
Rob, my guess would be the FAR side loads quicker because it looks like you have to walk farther to get on, when in all actuality, there's less people over there.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:40 PM
Hey RollerHammer, I have family in California so I go out there a lot. I've been to Magic Mountain and Knotts about 10 times each if my numbers are right as recently as this past summer. Yeah you should check out "X" first I still have not had the oppurtunity to rde it yet. I've been on every ride except for X, Superman and Scream. But all I really have to say is no sfmm experience is complete without going on Riddler's Revenge, Goliath, Colossus and a good helping of Dippin' Dots. You should check out Knotts as well. Ghostrider Rules!! Well have fun
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:42 PM
X blew and Magic Mountain was a garbage pile. Blech.

Go to Disneyland.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:44 PM
arrgh, i apologize for my signature. my friend Alex has my pw for coasterbuzz.com and he must've changed it, I'll take it off immediately sorry if I offended anyone
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:09 PM
Before you go bashing SFMM, Knott's operations have also been less than desirable recently. Both parks are going down the drain and that saddens me.

I'm not bashing SFMM. I honestly can't comment from personal experience on SFMM operations but plenty of people who did visit the park this summer found PLENTY to complain about. Case in point: single train operation on many coasters during summer, due to failed inspections and lack of a budget to get them fixed. Other problems can be read in the various threads I linked to above and in the numerous trip reports in the TR Forums.

That being said, I did visit Knotts a lot this year, on average once a month. I have had ZERO problems with Knotts operations. Except for off-peak season and annual maintenance [which is also in off-peak season] Knotts was always running coasters and flats at capacity. Plus the park is clean, its well-themed, and employees are always friendly and do a good job [albeit sometimes the Monty crew is a bit slow].

Is Knott perfect? No. But "going down the drain?" Hardly, and I bet I can find a lot of people who've also visited the park this year to back me up.

mOOSH

*** Edited 10/29/2004 12:12:46 AM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:44 PM
wrd. ;)
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:36 PM
Thanks for all your help, everyone. I'm going out there for a job interview, so I only have Friday night and Saturday to see California for the first time. I'd love to go to SFMM, Knott's, and the Disney Parks, but I'm probably only going to make it to two of them. So much to do, so little time...
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:45 PM
Haha according to my parents, we are moving back to california where I can visit the "Xtreme Park" and Knotts more often. Six Flags over Texas is great, but I just love the california atmosphere. We should be moving in about 2 weeks after I get all my school transcripts to transfer to a cali school. Well hope to see some of my fellow coasterbuzzers there at the mountain hey and maybe the farm too. (Yes I realize that was a very corny post).
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Friday, October 29, 2004 12:13 AM
Rollerhammer - Make sure you check SFMM's operating schedule. I don't think they're open weekdays this time of year. Knotts is open every day. Feel free to IM or E-mail me with more specific details of your trip and where the interview is and I can help you make the most of your time.

mOOSH

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Friday, October 29, 2004 2:16 AM
Weird friendly. . . are you sure you live in California?

blagh blagh customer service, 1 train. Go to Alton Towers.

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Friday, October 29, 2004 5:13 AM
If you don't go to many parks in one season, and don't nitpick park's service ops, then you will *more than likely have a great time at the mountian. X rocks, and even if it isn't open, several kick a$$ coasters will wet your pallet. Try it, then knock it like so many others ;) (including me)

Scott

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Friday, October 29, 2004 10:03 AM

INTAMINidated said:
Six Flags over Texas is great, but I just love the california atmosphere.

I never expected to see a "but" after that first part....

Best.Park.Ever.

edit: And I'm one of those people who *loved* X, and thinks highly of SoCal...(well, the peeps anyway, LOL). Seriously, SFMM has virtually limitless "room for improvement"....the RIDES are there, every other aspect is.....substandard.
*** Edited 10/29/2004 2:07:58 PM UTC by rollergator***

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 2:27 AM
Rob.....I still haven't rode X either, but that will hopefully change by next Spring around Solace time. :-D We should be *deflowered* by X together if you are going to be around that area then. ;-)

-Tina

*** Edited 10/30/2004 6:27:50 AM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:58 PM
Rollerhammer,

If there is any way you could get to LA earlier, SFMM will be open on Thursday for the holiday. I will be heading out on Wed. night with the wife and a couple of friends for a long four day weekend. SFMM on Thursday, KBF on Friday, San Diego and Tijuana on Saturday, and DCA and Santa Monica before a red-eye back to Philly on Sunday.

You may want to check on park hours for Friday evening, as I believe that KBF is only open until 6. If you do decide to do SFMM on Saturday, do yourself a favor and invest in FastLane. My last time to SoCal, I had limited time and ended up at MM on a Saturday. Very crowded. You also want to get there well before they open, as cars line up early just to get into the parking lot.

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