Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:11 AM
The footprint that X is located on seems so unproportionate to the size of the coaster.
How large is the space?
3 acres?
Less?
More?

Little side note: Twisted rails latest update shows a section of X track next to a picinic table for scale. The track is massive....
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:18 AM
Well, the track length is 3,610 FT, that's just about as long as your average B&M floorless, sit-down, and inverted coaster.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:05 AM
All I know is that I thought when looking at pics of the brake run, "My God, how is a train like X suppose to fit through such a tiny gap in the sructure!" Look for yourself:

http://www.twistedrails.com/sfmm2k1/jun16-17.shtml (profile)
&
http://www.twistedrails.com/sfmm2k1/jun16-11.shtml (straight on).

That looks like a definite foot, head, and side chopper! Geez, I can only imagine riding that thing, with the train careening onto the brake run right through those small openings! It's looking great!

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:01 PM
But remember that when you hit the break run, you will be going backwards. So the foot, head, side chopper effect will not realy work because you will see it after you pass it by.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:07 PM
Oh yeah, that's right...duh! *smacks head*
But still, the area the train passes through does look very small from those angles. Of course it will be big enough to pass through (I hope;)), but it doesn't look like there will be a large margin for error.

By the way, does anyone know if there is going to
be a maximum height limit? Also, the station looks like it won't have a dropping floor as on an invert, so will it just be like an Intamin impulse or what?

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:08 PM
It will still be cool b/c once you enter it, you might be afraid of getting killed/ hurt by flying beams

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:13 PM
what if the restraints fail on X, i wonder how arrow made them as safe as possible. that would be scary flipping around and the restraints let loose, SCARY. Just adds to the fear of the ride, thats probably what the designers aimed at.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:23 PM
As far as the small footprint size, it has a twister layout. I dives back into itself. Don't worry, it'll fit:)
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:51 PM
Wait a minute, are we sure yet that the trains will be backwards on X?

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If Millennium Force doesn't go upside-down, then how could Mantis?
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:59 PM
Yes, but not the whole time... as it enters the second element (the name of the element slips my mind), it is like an immelman, except at the top the track doesn't flip back over, the 4D trains just rotate around, and you are facing forwards right-side-up. It may be hard to picture now, but you will get it once you see it in action.

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:00 PM
It's called the 'Raven Turn'.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:03 PM
Ohh yes, I see now. It reminds me of a flying coaster turning over and staying that way. That will be cool.

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If Millennium Force doesn't go upside-down, then how could Mantis?
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 2:27 PM
Is there any sites that actually show the layout?

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 3:09 PM

For anyone who has not seen this, there is a short video with some animation and some live prototype video of the trains and track with a test section on arrows home page http://www.arrowdynamics.com/rides.php?rtype=4th%20Dimension
Worth seeing if you havent already.
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coaster freaks unite-conquer them all
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:02 PM

coastermaniac99 said:
"what if the restraints fail on X, i wonder how arrow made them as safe as possible. that would be scary flipping around and the restraints let loose, SCARY. Just adds to the fear of the ride, thats probably what the designers aimed at."


What is your point? What if the restraint would fail on Goliath? Flashback? Revolution (thats a long shot!)? All the same, 99.99% chance of death. Why do people worry about what will happen if a restraint would fail on a new kind of coaster? This will happen: a bad thing.

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:12 PM
The footprint people the footprint.
How large is it?
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Monday, June 18, 2001 6:46 PM
geez sorry for trying making conversation.......
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Monday, June 18, 2001 7:39 PM
so you'll be going down the first drop on x with your back to the ground?? i thought i read somewhere it would be head first.

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"who needs drugs when you have coasters...they're like a natural high"
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Monday, June 18, 2001 9:59 PM
The drop will be face first like a skydive, then will twist around halfway so you're looking back at the drop while navigating the first Raven Turn.

Karl
http://www.twistedrails.com
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Monday, June 18, 2001 10:03 PM
People just won't get it till they see it running.

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