Monday, January 15, 2001 8:32 AM
I'm not trying to start any rumors here. This was just something on my mind this weekend. MA sounds like a good park (I live in MI but haven't been there since it was Deer Park). I don't know much about Michigan Adventures economic conditions but doesn't it seem like they could be a great park with a little more capital? They have some real estate and Muskegon's a great resort area. It occured to me that it might be great if it were a Cedar Fair park. So here's my questions: Would it be a good thing if MA were sold to one of the big corps? Would one of the big boys take interest in such a remote park?
If I'da thought about it a little longer, I'da spent more time thinking.
Monday, January 15, 2001 9:53 AM
Sometimes, non-corporate parks are good because they have a more homey feeling.
Number 1 And Only Cedar Point
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:29 AM
I would love to see Cedar Fair (not Six Flags) buy it out. I think Cedar Fair would be more willing to help out MA when Sixs Flags would just try to get money out of it.
Ride with full FORCE
Monday, January 15, 2001 11:30 AM
I know people that worked at the park, with the Jourdens (sp?)-- they have long term plans for the park and I don't think they'd be interested in selling. Some of what they've done in recent years isn't glamorous, but is necessary--for example, they installed some heavy duty sewage handling facilities, since down the line they want to add a motel and a campground in addition to greatly expanding the park facilities.
Monday, January 15, 2001 5:02 PM
I think there in good shape.this past summer was slow due to the weather.i bet if they have a good summer,you will see a 200 foot coaster shortly after.i dought that they would sell the park.
PINK FLOYD FANATIC
Monday, January 15, 2001 9:52 PM
I do NOT want to see this park get sold too Cedar Fair or Six Flags because Shivering Timbers will get loaded with trim brakes if either one brought it out! Maybe Six Flags might keep the brakes off but CF will defiantely do it!!
PINK FLOYD FANATIC
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:26 AM
Everyone, NOBODY buys a park to "help them out". It is all for a strong business decision, or for a defensive measure. Roger LaJorden(I think that is the owners name), has spent plenty of time, money and personal resources to make a great park in an underserved area over the past few years.
He has spent the past few trade shows looking at asthetics, like benches, shade, food kiosks and such to help along the park experience. He has a long way to go to become complete, but the park looks great for the young age.
Besides, I think that park would really thrive under the Kennywood family, but he will not be selling anytime soon.
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Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:30 AM
You know Agent Johnson, I agree with you about the park thriving under Kennywood. From what I've heard about Lake Compounce previously and what I saw when I went there this past year, they've done a world of good for that park - and though I haven't been to Michigan's Adventure, I think Kennywood's the perfect owner of a traditional amusement park like that.
CP Ride Operations '99-'00
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:18 AM
Just remember that everyone has a price. If someone came in and offered the park the right price to sell, do you honestly believe they wouldn't take it? They would be foolish to pass on it.
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:24 AM
Depends on whether your goal is financial gain, or something different. I'd suspect the Jourdens (sp?) are not interested solely in making a short term profit.
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:16 AM
I don't think if Cedar Fair bought the park it would put trims on Shivering Timbers. I don't know why everyone thinks that just because Cedar Fair trimmed the Mean Streak to death that they would do it to other coasters they bought out too. The only reason they did that the Mean Streak is because it would tear itself apart if it weren't trimmed. Well thats my view on the situation.
I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode.
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:57 PM
Not every owner has 'a price'. Plenty of independents have refused offers from Six Flags and such. Some people do it for the pure fun of it. No, really.
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:59 PM
I think it all depends on the exact financial situation of the park. If its bad then yes if they figure they're okay then no. For example SWO they werent really making any money because of SFO and that fact they couldn't build thrill rides. So they sold. Just think what that 110mil might be buying for some of the other parks like BGT and BGW.
Don't mess with the X in 01
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:28 PM
Well, that may be, but only the Busch Family can live with the final numbers, but that money will be absorbed by the Anheuser Busch bean counters to offset any taxable losses last year. To one park, that is Disney money, but to AB, that is 'operating payroll' for a few weeks.
*** This post was edited by Agent Johnson on 1/17/2001. ***