Wooden coasters and their "offspring"...

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I know about the Shooting Star at Coney Island in Cincy, and the CI Cyclone, and the Bobs at Riverview Park.  They have given rise to many coasters that were based on their layouts.  Rampage is based largely on the design of Megafobia.  The original Mr. Twister gave its legacy to Twiter and Twister II.  What coasters were designed based on the Shooting Star and The Bobs, and can you think of more that derived their heritage from other wooden coasters? 
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Raging Wolf Bobs at Six Flags Worlds of Adventure (formerly known as Six Flags Ohio and even more formerly known as Geauga Lake) is LOOSELY based on the Bobs from Riverview. 

Viper at Six Flags Great America is LOOSELY based on the Coney Island Cyclone.
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Viper @ SFGAm is a mirror of the Coney Island Cyclone.

rollergator said:
I know about the Shooting Star at Coney Island in Cincy, and the CI Cyclone, and the Bobs at Riverview Park.  They have given rise to many coasters that were based on their layouts.  Rampage is based largely on the design of Megafobia.  The original Mr. Twister gave its legacy to Twiter and Twister II.  What coasters were designed based on the Shooting Star and The Bobs, and can you think of more that derived their heritage from other wooden coasters? 
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Truthfully,  The Wildcat at Coney Island Cincinnati gave more offspring than it's counterpart Shooting Star.
 Good topic though.   I really think Wolverine Wildcat could be one hell of a ride if it wasn't for the Dinn track.  It is so obviously bassed on the Phoenix it's pathetic although the layout dose not figure eight.
Chuck, who will be interested to follow this topic :) 

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Charles Nungester
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I think that Timber Terror is based on the Shooting Star.

Wolverine Wildcat at MA is based on the Phoenix.

I'm pretty sure that Timber Wolf and Grizzly are loosely based on a couple of the PTC "Wildcat" designs, but I'm not sure which ones.

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The PNE coaster in Vancouver,BC had a lot of influence in its' design from the Jantzen Beach Dipper(1928-1970)Portland,OR.The track layout up until the second turnaround was identical on these 2 coasters.I never  got to ride the Jantzen Beach Dipper,but after riding the PNE Coaster numerous times,this must have been a great coaster in its' day.Oregon hasn't had a woodie since then.This is kind of ironic for a state that at one time furnished lumber for lot of wood coasters.
rollergator's avatar
I saw some photos of Riverview in a coaster book I got as a Festivus present...that place had up to 11 (!) coasters operating.  Sad to know how many coasters have gone away - I still want to work on getting Thunder Eagle (and the other SBNO woodies) relocated to homes where they'll get lots of love and riders (and grease)...
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Would The Beast, Son of Beast, and Beastie count? :)
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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.
Add another one: Tonnerre de Zeus is also inspired by Timberwolf. Differences:

TDZ has a left 90 degree turn into the lift, Timberwolf station and lift are in a single line.

TDZ is mirrored ( Timberwolf turns to the left and drop, TDZ to the right ).

TDZ has a similar layout, but is tighter more intense and also a bit longer.

Also, 2 major differences: Timberwolf has PTC trains with headrests! Tonnerre de Zeus got PTC without headrests.

Timberwolf has a trim brake on the first drop, TDZ is allowed to rip apart from the first drop ( into a tunnel ) into the final brake run ( did I mention the brake run moves a good 3 to 4 inches when a train is stopped? )

The Legend is inspired by the beast.
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Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?
Didn't Will Koch say that the Raven was inspired by the Beast and not the Legend?
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Bill Yost
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Another noted offspring is Knoebel's Twister... which took it's layout and design from the actual plans of the defunct Mr. Twister at Elitch.  The ride was modified from it's predecessors layout but still remains true to the overall feel.

Shaggy

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Shaggy
A.K.A. John K.

They both technically are based on the beast, terrain coasters that fly through the woods, but Legend has the helices liek The Beast.
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