Wood Coaster Trains Resource Needed

Monday, April 7, 2003 12:47 PM
Can anyone point me in the direction of an online resource for identifying the various types of trains found on wooden coasters? Thanks in advance.

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Monday, April 7, 2003 1:22 PM

Theres the ones on Boss....Mean Streak...and Son of Beast! Those are the dif. ones I can think of!
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Monday, April 7, 2003 1:40 PM
You may want to look at www.rcdb.com . Just type in the name of the coaster and look at the picture, or the stats page.

The main builders of coaster trains that I can think of are PTC, G-Trains, and GCI. The past coaster train companies are NAD, and VETTEL. These are the ones I can think of, and there are more inlikely more.
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*** This post was edited by The_Lost_Phantom 4/7/2003 5:43:26 PM ***

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Monday, April 7, 2003 2:29 PM
I was recently schooled in Coasterbuzz Trainspotting 101. most CCI's use PTC's or Gerstlauer; GCI's have PTC's or their own millennium flyer trains (as seen on Roar West) SOB has premier, and the pointy nosed ones on Colossus/SCBB Giant Dipper are from Morgan.
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Monday, April 7, 2003 2:40 PM
Exactely what kind of information are you looking for?

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"If you make it too smooth, it'll be like sitting in your living room."
-Bill Cobb - Designer, Texas Cyclone

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Monday, April 7, 2003 2:56 PM
Black 7
I'm pretty much looking for what Antuan allready said above, the different types of trains found on current wooden coasters. I was also hoping that maybe there was a resource somewhere online that shows exactly what the differences (type of seats, lap bars, # of seats) between the types of trains are so that in the future when I get on a wooden coaster, I could immediately know what type of train I was on by merely looking at it. Heck, if anybody can, please feel free to enlighten me on the differences right here in this thread. Thanks.


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Monday, April 7, 2003 3:08 PM
Psyclone at SFMM uses the (only?) attempt of a B&M wooden train.

In europe you can find Vekoma trains on the Vekoma/Allot and Lomax woodies. (check: Robin Hood, Werewolf and Thundercoaster. The latter is alledgedly changing to PTC this season)

Intamin woodies use their own cars. (ugly but effective. Check Colossos, Balder or Wild Wild West in Madrid)

There is an Intamin/Rcca woodie in germany that uses the SOB Premier trains (after the first generation Intamin trains failed. Beautiful but ineffective).Check Wild Wild West at Warner Bros. germany.

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Monday, April 7, 2003 6:10 PM

OK,

Well, in the US, the vast majority of wood coasters use trains from PTC. These come in several different styles, but all of them look pretty boxy. They make trains in either a two or a three bench model. The newer trains have ratcheting lap bars in an L shape that are connected to the floor on the towards the outside of the train. The older trains have "buzzbars" which are single position lap bars that come down across both riders. Seats are usually divided, and some parks also like to add headrests.

GCI has developed trains exclusively for their own coasters, call Millennium Flyers. These trains have single bench trailered cars, meaning the cars only have one set of wheels and are hitched to the car in front like a trailer would be. The have very comfy seats that are divided with no headrests. The lap bars are attached to a ratcheting pole the goes between the legs.

I have never ridden on the Gerstlauer, or G-Trains, so I cannot say how they are. I am told they are very uncomfortable. This picture of Legend at Holiday World shows the G-Train it used to run. It has since switched to PTC trains.

Morgan trains are fiberglass trains that run on several coaster. They have plastics seats and a U-shaped lap bar that kinda squashes the legs. They are very identifiable by their rounded fronts.

Disappearing but still out there are the beautiful NAD Century Flyers. The art deco style trains are clad in stainless steel and often feature headlights on the front of the trains. They came in three or four bench models. They are no longer made, as NAD is no longer, but they have no seat dividers and all use buzzbars.

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"If you make it too smooth, it'll be like sitting in your living room."
-Bill Cobb - Designer, Texas Cyclone

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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 3:32 AM
Black 7 This will help me get off to a great start with my research. Thank you very much.

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*** This post was edited by Pale Rider 4/8/2003 7:33:52 AM ***
*** This post was edited by Pale Rider 4/8/2003 7:34:20 AM ***

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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:38 AM
The Monster at La Ronde runs Morgan trains, with 4 seats per car. The interesting thing is that the lap bars are not individual and are connected within each car, so the largest person of the four people in a car determine the lap bar height. While great for me when riding with larger people behind me in the same car, you should see the look on the faces of little kids in the same car as some of the very large patrons. The lap bar it pretty much just ornamental at that point.

My question, finally: Is this typical of Morgan trains?

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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:59 AM
Does LeMonstre actually have multi-position lap bars? A lot of the Morgan trains actually have single-position bars in them, so the bar position isn't set by the biggest person in the car, it's set by the one and only locking position for the bars, much like the old PTC and NAD lap bars, or the bars on the oldest Arrow Runaway Trains.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Who has only ridden in one Morgan wood coaster train...
*** This post was edited by RideMan 4/8/2003 11:59:28 AM ***

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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:31 AM
I think that there is only one fully closed position for the bars on Le Monstre. There are higher catches on the ratchets, but the bar must be all the way down before dispatch. This results in me being stapled half to death and the skinny ten year old in the same car nearly flying out.
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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 11:24 AM
Yep, Monstre has 2 "Clicks" and the second has to go in or the train does not leave the station! Yep, so you can say its a single position lap bar.
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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 12:08 PM
Antuan, where's the trainspotting 101 at? I can't find it. Were you joking or does it actually exist, because I'd like to see it...

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Tuesday, April 8, 2003 1:33 PM
Some more types that have not been mentioned..

CCI's LCOSM modern wooden mine features two cars with two benches facing one another.
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery460.htm?Picture=14

The original P&C trailered cars on Giant Dipper at Belmont Park. Thier striking resemblance to GCI's Millennium Flyers is no mistake. The cowled zero car and pipe-work grill are the most obvious similarities.
http://www.twistedrails.com/belmont/car-01.shtml

The four bench Baker cars run on the Coney Island Cyclone at Astronland in New York. These cars are heavy and offer a solid ride.

Numerous varieties of side friction/switchback railway cars, a few of which are still operating. Some of these cars have a "brake man" who sits in the back to control the train's speed.

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Kevin Stone
NoLimits Dev Team
http://www.nolimitscoaster.de

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