WoA'S Villain Not Aging Well

Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:53 PM
I posted this on an SFWOA fan site, and of course, I was bashed. Villain is still perfect.

Am I the ONLY one who thinks that Villain either seriously had a bad winter, or is not being properly maintained?

The bottom of the first drop is rougher than it ever had gotten before the re-track. The trick track squeals madly, and slows the train, therefore making the upper far turnaround slower that last year.

The whole ride seems to have lost that kick, and seems to be going slower, due to extra friction that is producing the squealing.

In addition, the trains seem to be shimmying a bit down the track.

A good buddy of mine, and myself, both worshipped Villain as a god last season. Last Monday (6/11) we both agreed that we don't need to go back for quite some time.

Am I crazy? Or, is there SOMEone else who agrees with me.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 2:20 PM
Give me a break - the coaster is only a year old. How could you say that it isn't aging well.

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:22 PM
As said above,
THE VILLIAN IS ONE (1) YEAR OLD!!!!
If you said like the Big Dipper or Double Loop are not ageing well the that is understandable.
Let's review the birthdays for the coasters, shall we?
Double Loop: Happy 30th (about) Birthday!
Big Dipper: Happy 75th Birthday! You're the grandpa here!
Villian: Happy 1th year Birthday! You're the infant.
So, one year old, last year it was BRAND NEW!! It's just now getting broken in. It is still fairly new and will act up like this for a while.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:19 PM
When I rode this spring at night it was one of the 5 best rides I have ever had on coaster, anywhere. Obviously, I couldn't disagree with you more.

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Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:47 PM
Yeah, I knew I was crazy.

Anyone?? Please. I hope I am not the only one who thinks this way.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:47 PM
Maybe "aging" wasn't a perfect choice of words, but Mongoose is right, Villain has lost it's punch. Last year the back was filled with gut wrenching drops and massive G's. This year, it was no better than above average. Part of the problem is the track is expanding and the cars are shifting around on the track. Plus it seems the maintainence crews dont listen to the ride OPS when they tell them what is wrong with the ride. The basic policy at SFWoA is if it runs at all, it runs well.

On a side note, Raging Wolf Bobs and Big Dipper are running exceptionally well, both with an improved ride over last year.

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Jes
Webmaster, Jes's Roller Coasters
http://www.jesms.cjb.net
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:49 PM
Other tan it squeaking, I think it is perfct.
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:56 PM
I think I've found out a solution why I don't like the Villain as much as I did last year. Mind you, I still like it... it's one of my favorite coasters. Anyways, last year, I rode it more than 50 times and I pretty much new every piece of track there was. Maybe I could even sleep on it since I knew the layout by heart.

Now that I've noticed some minor differences, I immediatly notice them and say, "What's wrong?" It's selfish of me to think the Villain will ALWAYS stay in the condition as it was in the 2000 season. Sure.. it'll get rough over the years. As long as SFWoA takes care of the wheels and the greasing, I'll be happy.

RWB IS running great this year.

I yet have to take another ride on the Villain. It was closed the whole day my last visit. :(

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Chris B.
http://sfwoa.tripod.com/
Radioheader08@netscape.net
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:11 PM
I loved my 15 rides in an hr in may
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:14 PM
I don't think it's a matter of aging, I think it's a matter of being maintained. Wood coasters need attention. Villain is a pretty straight-forward out-and-back ride. It's not real strong on the laterals, so I would think that track maintenance would be easier to deal with (that's just speculation on my part, I don't really know). Rides like Legend and Raven are in great shape after several seasons, and those rides are insanely intense by comparison.

Kennywood's Thunderbolt and Jack Rabbit, while getting a little rough at the end of a season, are generally smooth to start the season out. Those rides are decades old. Why should Villain be rough?

Villain has problems this year, and I think they're all in the first trip out, therefore slowing the rest of the ride. It's not the design, it's the people maintaining it (or not). I'd be able to form a better opinion if the damn thing was open more.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:25 PM
Hymmm... I thought I was the only one to notice that Raging Wolf Bobs is not that bad. As for Villain, I thought it was running descently, but I have ALWAYS disliked those trains and lapbars, they are horrible. Villain deserves better. But I seem to remember Legend and Ghostrider also having times where they didn't track very well, so let's see how it runs near the end of the season.

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Monday, June 18, 2001 5:39 AM
Villain has been closed recently because, once again, the track is expanding and the cars are actually hitting the proxies on the way up to the lift on that little turn before the hill. Sometimes the car doesn't hit them, some times it does.
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Jes
Webmaster, Jes's Roller Coasters
http://www.jesms.cjb.net
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Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:42 AM
Villain was open yesterday, and the only truly bad part was the trick-track. They seemed to have done something.
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Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:54 AM
Coasters are just like cars. If you don't mantain yours by keeping it well oiled and all of the stuff even if it a year old you will start notice the difference. Rides not being properly maintained often causes ride to squek and become due to more friction of track. It is probably coming from not being oiled enough.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:50 AM
Most woodies become rougher after their first year, I.E. Mean Streak, this is a natural thing. How could you say that after a year of operation that Villain is not aging well?
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Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:58 PM
I thought they replaced the cars, considering how much leg room there is now

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:54 PM
SFWoA bought a third train that is now in service along with the second train. Both feature the redesigned lap bars from Gerstlauer (Spelling?) Apparently a block brake will be added over the winter for the '02 season so all three trains can run.

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Jes
Webmaster, Jes's Roller Coasters
http://www.jesms.cjb.net
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