Will we see other inversions on wooden coasters so

To the non enthusiast the loop is a gimmick. Lets face the fact that they can adverise as the only woody with a loop and be more successful because of it. Does it make it better? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Parks have to learn how to maintain good wooden coasters before they start to build them bigger,faster and with loops.

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"Nippy!! Where the hell are ya?"

You'll have to talk to CF and SF about that one s. Big, bad coasters. Paramount keeps all of their woodies in great condition and know how to keep and make good ones(except for maybe PGAs Grizzly).

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PKI-Wooden and Kiddie Coaster Capital of the World!
The First and Only Gigabuzzer bigger than Millie, rising Faster than Maggie, and pulls more BS than MS ever will!!!
You are the Weakest Link! Goodbye!!!

Lets see if they can make the hole ride out of wood including the loop!!! (the loop on SOB is made from steel) But you will not catch me riding it!

I think the loop on SOB makes it an even better ride, even though I've never experienced it. If it didn't have a loop it still would look like a great ride. Too bad about the problems. I would like to see CCI or GCI making loops on a few of their woodies in the future. I don't know about corkscrews and other inversions, but I'm sure there is someone out there trying to come up with the proper engineering for a wooden corkscrew. Personally, I don't want to see other inversions on wooden coasters. A loop or two would be ok, but nothing else. Peace. :)

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Medusa at Marine World: the best coaster in the west!

hmmm. The coaster world is BUILT on innovations; hell, coasters ARE innovations. Let us not be negative.... instead, let the coaster architects open the gates and seize the day.

Well, first of all, I don't think that the loop is just a gimmick. Although I have read mixed reviews about SOB, I have never heard anyone criticize the loop. In fact, most people seem to think that it is done very well and that it flows well with the rest of the ride.

Koaster King, why do you say that the loop wouldn't be questioned if it went to CP. Last year, I heard a lot of people question and bash the lay out of MF before they even rode it. Also, people are constantly bashing MS, ID, and DT. All of these rides are at Cedar Point and probably get scrutinized more just because of it.

I guess I too am a purist, I'd like to see loops stay off woodies, I believe their appeal lies elsewhere. I'd call a loop on a woodie a gimmick, but hell, everything is a gimmick once.


I've haven't been on SOB, let alone ever been to PKI, but I'll jump in on this. Of the many reviews I've read for SOB, I would say most are not gushing with high praise, seems more like overall disappointment. I'm really sorry to hear this, I think SOB looks absolutely amazing.

I'm going to agree with GenuineCynic. Who doesn't think that SOB's exact layout built with steel wouldn't have been a much better idea? Sure seems like big woodies are plagued by big problems. Werner Stengle drew it up, imagine if PKI handed his design to Giovanola or Intamin and let them fabricate this ride? I do give much praise to the suit at Paramount who went out on a limb and signed the checks to build an ambitious woodie like SOB, but so far as I can tell it looks like it was a bad idea.

Everyone has an opinion, so here is mine.
I think that we will be seeing quite a few more steel/wooden coasters. Maybe even a Dr. Jeckyl & Mr. Hyde coaster that is half wooden with awesome air time, and half steel with some cool inversions (don't even think of steeling the idea, it's copyrighted). The technology today is Awesome! Anything is possible.
If the ride doesn't kill you, then it's a good one.

SOB is awesome; I can't wait to ride it again. The only complaint I have about the SOB is that the lap bar doesn't have padding on it. When I ride it my knees are even with the lap bar posts. So when the roller coaster starts getting real rough, my knees slam into the bar. Other than that, the ride is PERFECT! And the loop is AWESOME! The ride looks mean, feels out of controll, and was designed to be that way. I'm sure when they were designing the sequel to The Beast, I'm sure they weren't thinking "lets make it give the riders a warm and fluffy feeling in their bellies".

I haven't been on SOB, and I'm a bit confused by it to say the least - it just looks like two enormous helices with a big drop at the start of each of them. And a loop.

Sounds a bit like the smaller Schwarzkopf loopers to me! And which of the two are the smoother?

Another thing - I've heard Gerstlauer (Ugh!) are working on a woodie train that can do corkscrews. As if their trains aren't a problem enough as it is!

I hate to say this but on a better layout that loop on sob, even though people say it is a gimmick and I think it is to , would add a lot to a smooth wood coaster with and out and back layout. The drops on the sob had good air , don't get me wrong, but i think would have enhanced the ride greatly if it would have been straight. I dont know though, I found it to be a good ride just a little bit rough. But that problem might be fixed because I went in the end of july on a wet day.

If SOB was bulit in Africa, we all would be saying something totally different...like...Wow I am going to Africa...Why can't they build one here?!...200ft! I wish we lived there!....We all really need to appreciate the ride, so what if you don't like it? People in other countires think we have everything, and we do...but we take it for granted.
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I think putting inversions on woodies is great. We just taking yet another step forward in technology. I think the possibilities are endless, we will always find a way to do something with any type of coaster. Im sure that when people heard that SOB had a loop they were saying no way. But it happened so whats going to keep us from doing other inversions.

Inversions on woodies are great. I think that as technology grows and the engineerers get more daring, we just might see more manuvers. I don't think that's a bad thing either. I look forward to it!

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GenuineCynic you're scared of the ideas of hyperwoodies? You listed some of the worst ride out there BUT Hiede Park's Colossos is reported by everyone who has ridden it to be VERY smooth! No wasting track on loops for future woodies instead lets see a 1 1/2 times larger version of the the new airtime king Colossos with the world's STEEPEST woodie drop right here in the USA!! If someone builds a 220-300 foot tall Intamin hyper/gigawoodie with a minumum of 7500 feet of track and airtime on EVERY hill in EVERY seat and at least FIVE tunnels than my dream woodie will be built! I just hope SFMM or CP is smart enough to do that for me and to mainatin a ride quality as wild as Colossos! It WILL work if it EVER gets built!!

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GenuineCynic said:

Looks like parks are going for records. Mean Streak did it. Colossus did it. American Eagle did it. Rattler... Dare we even delve. All four coasters, mere shades of their former selves.

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Take a big look at two of the best woodies ever The Father and Texas Giant. These have not undergone the major reprofiling that the others have.

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Wooden coasters by GCI and CCI are more enjoyable because they are moderate. Wooden coasters have always been better between 70-120 feet tall. Don't believe me? Look at all the high rated wooden coasters on the Amusement Today surveys. Raven. Legend. Villain. Ghostrider. There are more. Most (save for a few flukes) are in that medium hight range we love.

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1. Raven
2. Shivering Timbers
3. Texas Giant
4. Rampage
5. Phoenix
6. Beast

That is the top six in the Amusement today poll.

Only one of the ones you mention beat out two of the tallest woodies.





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Apollos Chariot said:
"If SOB was bulit in Africa, we all would be saying something totally different...like...Wow I am going to Africa...Why can't they build one here?!...200ft! I wish we lived there

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exactly!! It doesn't even have to be in Africa, it could have been built in Australia, any Pacific Rim country, or Europe.

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