Will Arrow be the industy's darlings again?

Tuesday, January 1, 2002 5:44 AM
Like any trend. Things recycle.Is it Arrow's time to shine again? Intamin has been the steel designer of choice as of late.I feel it's time for Arrow again.Any thoughts?


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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 5:58 AM
Arrow will definitly come back...... think about it, they made the first corkscrew coasters and now with X and its vertical drop it will produce many more and be great!!!!!
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 6:42 AM
I think it's entirely possible. If it is happening we're just on the cusp of it.

Arrow dominated into the late 80's/ early 90's then B&M seems to have the the "designer du jour" for most of the 90's. The last couple of years have really seen Intamin shine and there seems to be sort of trend with people raving about them. X looks to be an overwhelming sucess. Get a bunch of these up in the next few years and it could be Arrow's turn to be prom queen once again.

Does it really matter though? As long as somebody is out there designing and building great coasters, I really don't care what name is behind it - a fun ride is a fun ride regardless of who made it.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 7:24 AM
Arrow better have more than just Mad Mouse coasters and 4-D's. The most succesful companies (Intamin, B&M, Vekoma) are the versitile ones.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 7:53 AM
The funny thing is, I get the sense that Arrow in its current form has little or nothing to do with the Arrow of the 80's. The technology is new, the people appear to be new and generally speaking it's an entirely different company (especially now that they ditched the steel fab).

I guess what I'm getting at here is that it's probably not fair to compare Arrow now to Arrow in 1990 or earlier. That said, they've got a killer new product (even if it is apparently expensive) and several that haven't yet been purchased (ArrowBatic). They've got the goods, I just hope they're not too late. '94 to 2001 were very intense building years and I'm not optimistic that trend is going to continue.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 8:41 AM
call me stupid if you want, but what is an arrow batic?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 8:43 AM
Ok Stupid, the ArrowBatic is Arrow's answer to the inverted wild mouse. Arrow uses 5 passanger inverted cars to navigate two different twisted tracks, the Family version, and the Extreme version, which includes corkscrews, overbanked turns and a vertical drop.
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*** This post was edited by Zero-G on 1/1/2002. ***

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 8:47 AM
well, I was kidding about calling be stupid.  but oh well.  are there any pictures of an arrowbatic?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 8:53 AM
NO. None have been built yet.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 8:56 AM
Yea Sorry ChickenMan, just messing with your head! If you want to know more, go to the Arrow Dynamics website at
http://www.arrowdynamics.com

They have a page about their ArrowBatic.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 9:34 AM
Although they were building coasters, flat rides and giant drops for many years, Intamin exploded in the industry after three major rides, Superman:The Escape/Tower of Terror, Volcano and then S:ROS. This was just a few years ago. IMO, the industry needs another shot in the arm and Arrow looks to be the ones to fit the bill. As Jeff said, they have the product, and X should become Arrow's defining thrillride.

And don't give me that "Arrow needs to work out the bugs in their coasters" stuff. Intamin(who everyone loves so much now)has had their share of long delayed projects, yet the quality of what they do is still their main selling point.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 9:48 AM
Darlings? Darlings?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 10:22 AM
I think Arrow will have its chance to shine. I am sure that there will be quite a few 4D's installed after they get all the kinks worked out of X. I can see Six Flags buying a few more for other parks (hoping SFA or Gr8 Adv.) I would also like to see some Arrowbatics installed as well as some new megaloopers. I still want to ride the Tennessee Tornado. I enjoy their older coasters even if there is some headbanging. Does anyone know if they have gotten paid for X?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 10:40 AM
Kinks? What kinks? It works fine, except for a fwe problems in the restraints, but that will most likely be fixed by media day. Give me a example of a "kink" in the 4D please.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 10:54 AM
Umm... a little bit of darkish brown, tiny track has been showing up at SFAW, and it looks like a wild mouse. This is pure speculation, but might Arrow have some part in this?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 12:12 PM
Arrow has had a few "mad mouse" models installed. I rode the one at Michigan's Adventure. It's a nice little ride. I kind of like the Mack and Maurer Shone models better (they're about the same), but it's still a fun little ride.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 12:37 PM
Poor Arrowguy, lol!

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 12:42 PM
SFMM Salvi....No need to get offended about me saying "kinks." As with any new type of coaster there are a few things that need worked out. With X that was problems with the trains, and a few re welds on the track. What I meant is that when they get X running with all 3 trains I am sure they'll be getting alot of orders for the 4D. I think Arrow is a great company, and I look forward to riding a 4D coaster. Also I am not a CP phanatic trying to put down MM or any other way that you may have taken the word "kinks."

 I am not partial to any one park, but I do have some favorites. I love taking a trip to an amusement park, riding coasters, flat rides, and enjoying the scenery. I have never been to MM so I can't say anything about it. Although I know they have some coasters that I'd really like to ride.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 2:26 PM
actually, I'm looking foward to the past in that I LOVE the Arrow mine trains...but that doesn't mean I won't enjoy a few spins on X when the time comes.  I wouldn't be too concerned about their future, I believe/hope the boom will continue/re-start, for at least a few years...
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