Friday, June 1, 2001 8:49 PM
I just got back from Silverdollar City and rode Wildfire. One awesome and intense coaster I might ad. Here's the deal.....it does have a floor, but your feet don't touch it. I have never been on any other B&M sitdown coasters so my question is this:
Do your feet touch the floor on the other B&M sitdowns or is this a new type of train?
Friday, June 1, 2001 9:00 PM
They are a new type of train, kind of. They are somewhere between the Kumba/Hulk/Dragon Kahn trains and floorless trains. They are pretty much floorless trains with a platform to stand on, and a zero car.
To answer your one question: My feet touched the floor on Kumba and Hulk.
Friday, June 1, 2001 11:04 PM
Peabody hit it right on the head, although I always think of it as beemer hyper rolling stock that has OTSR's and one less row. I think the stock is great. You feel the ride sensations more when your feet don't touch the ground, and SDC probably saved a bundle by using this rolling stock as opposed to the floorless, which would have required the special loading platform.
I do have a question, and maybe someone can provide a definitive answer. Does the floorless design slow down loading significantly enough to effect capacity? I have ridden Kraken, but I cannot recall how much of an effect waiting for the platform to retract/restore itself had.
According to the "official" count, next year's new coaster lineup will feature 17 Arrow 4-Ds, 21 TA2Ks, 34 B&M floorless's, 17 Intamin Gigas, 12 beemer flyers, and 247 CCIs. And oh yeah, CP will receive one of all of these.
Saturday, June 2, 2001 6:25 AM
Apollo's Chariot's Cars are like that too.
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 6:40 AM
The Rentch , I Haven't ridden the kumba but i have ridden the incrediblt hulk and i think if one type of coaster takes longer ( floorless or B&M sitdown ) It would have to be the floorless because of like what you said the floors take a little time for the platform to keep reseting probably about a 15 sec. difference ,if that much.
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 7:06 AM
Actually, I would argue they're speed coaster trains (Apollo, Bull) with floorless seats on them, not vice-versa. The bogies are virtually identical to the speed trains only they don't have the clamshell lapbar coming from the floor. The floor is flush with the station.
If you want to see them up close, look here: http://www.coasterbuzz.com/features/iaapa2000/gallery/img.asp?img=ia00bmwildfire2.jpg
Compare to Apollo's Chariot: http://www.coasterbuzz.com/features/bgw/gallery/img.asp?img=bgw00actrain.jpg
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 12:37 PM
Jeff, you are absolutely right. Wildfire's cars are identical to AC and RB, except for the Horse Collar in place of the Clamshell. All provide for a really smooth and comfortable ride.
Saturday, June 2, 2001 12:56 PM
I didnt know they were a new train type, I just thought it had rasied seats.
Saturday, June 2, 2001 1:11 PM
I have been on Nitro, and saw a lot of Wildfire pics.They seem to have just switched chairs on a different chassis.Nitro's and Wildfire's floors look exactly the same. I think B&M is just trying to save up on material(compared to the amount used on Hulk and Kumba).
Saturday, June 2, 2001 6:51 PM
If you look carefully at the Wildfire link above, you can see a Nitro train in the background.
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