Why were so many bad roller coasters built in the 1980s?

Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:36 PM
Raven-Phile's avatar

Well, I mean - here in Cleveland, what other reason would we have for watching football?


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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:42 PM
kpjb's avatar

Masochism?


Hi

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:11 PM

Trackmaster said: I just can't think of another form of entertainment where 99.99999% of the customer base is so blissfully ignorant of the product that they consume.

It's more like 0.00001% of the customer base doesn't know how to have fun and can't understand how other people can. Seriously, it's not that people are ignorant. They just don't give a damn. They go to parks to have a good time and don't go out of their way to overthink it.

Last edited by bigboy, Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:14 PM

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:24 PM

I found it amusing that certain Cleveland area bars will have a chained-up refrigerator stocked full of Bud Lite. When Cleveland wins, the door to the refrigerator will be opened and there will be free beers for everyone who witnesses the odd phenomenon.

My advice would be to check the born-on date.

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:01 AM
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They will win a few this year. Lol.


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Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:32 AM

I just can't think of another form of entertainment where 99.99999% of the customer base is so blissfully ignorant of the product that they consume. For an example, look at people who watch pro football. Sure, over half of the people who watch games are "GPish" and just watch it to get drunk and watch some guys run around.

A lot of arrogance here. On multiple levels. But just for fun, lets look at the math. Assuming Cedar Point's annual attendance is 10 million (its not but lets go with it for now). And ignore that many people go the CP multiple times in a given year so attendance is not the same as the number of different people who go to the park each year. Using your percentage means there would be 1 person (slightly less actually but lets round up) each year who wasn't so blissfully ignorant of the product they consume. Maybe you should go to Pointbuzz and start a thread trying to determine who that person is. LOL

But there are tons of guys throughout America who eat, sleep, and breath football, and know as much as a seasoned player would. Its very commonplace to not have to look far to find people who are very knowledgeable about football.

So much statistical/scientific analysis here, who could argue. LOL

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:33 PM
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It's obviously hyperbole...which is the name of championship game in football, right? I don't know much about football.

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Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:47 PM

So you are saying you just watch pro football to get drunk?

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Monday, August 20, 2018 11:12 AM

GoBucks89 said:

I just can't think of another form of entertainment where 99.99999% of the customer base is so blissfully ignorant of the product that they consume. For an example, look at people who watch pro football. Sure, over half of the people who watch games are "GPish" and just watch it to get drunk and watch some guys run around.

A lot of arrogance here. On multiple levels. But just for fun, lets look at the math. Assuming Cedar Point's annual attendance is 10 million (its not but lets go with it for now). And ignore that many people go the CP multiple times in a given year so attendance is not the same as the number of different people who go to the park each year. Using your percentage means there would be 1 person (slightly less actually but lets round up) each year who wasn't so blissfully ignorant of the product they consume. Maybe you should go to Pointbuzz and start a thread trying to determine who that person is. LOL



Cedar Point is a bad sample demographic. I think that when you go to parks like CP, SFMM, KD, and Holiday World, you're much more likely to run into enthusiasts than the average park. For many other parks, enthusiasts only go to them in order to check them off their list, and for those parks, you may not see an enthusiast there the entire day.

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Monday, August 20, 2018 11:15 AM
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Trackmaster said:

Cedar Point is a bad sample demographic. I think that when you go to parks like CP, SFMM, KD, and Holiday World, you're much more likely to run into enthusiasts than the average park.

Based on what? Lot of assumptions there...

For many other parks, enthusiasts only go to them in order to check them off their list, and for those parks, you may not see an enthusiast there the entire day.

Based on what? Lot of assumptions there...

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Monday, August 20, 2018 11:21 AM

Vater said:

As much as you want parks to cater more to single adults, I don't see it happening. The industry isn't being hurt by a lack of single adults. It's not only perceived that amusement parks are more for kids, it's reality. You will always see more families at amusement parks than single adults. Young adults tend to go in groups with their friends, sure. But who goes by themselves other than the die-hard enthusiasts?

I know many adults who enjoy coasters, but it's not something they would ever consider doing by themselves. By the same token, I probably know just as many adults who can't stand them.

I agree with you. I would prefer more single adults, but I understand that its a business, and the parks need to make business decisions. I think that there could be a niche market for more adult focused parks, but it would be a niche, not something that was commonplace. But to even get to that point, you'd have to have years of great coasters in place throughout the country, the right investors, the right people involved, and great marketing. For one thing, you'd not only have to convince people to go to parks without kids, but would have to convince them to want to travel for parks. As of now, the only parks that people really travel for outside of enthusiasts is Disney (and Universal gets their spillover).

And its funny that you mention that you pretty much have to be an enthusiast to go by yourself. From what I see, even finding people in groups of less than four is unusual. Crowd control often has trouble finding just groups of two when they have to fill a train with two empty seats.

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