Why Doesn't Deja Vu have Rising Floors?

Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:42 PM
Why Doesn't it?  It seems like it could.  The computer could just be programmed to keep the floor down the entire ride except for when it rolls in the station.  Right?
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:43 PM
Deja Vu DOES have lowering floors.  So there is your answer. :-)
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:45 PM
Really?  Someone said it didn't.  Ok, why don't some inverteds have rising floors though?  Huh, answer me that Smart Boy!  j/k!
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:00 PM
Save Money. :-)
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:29 PM
well...on V2, the cars are high enough off the ground there is no need for a moving floor.  Just a big slab of concrete will do the job.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:53 AM
Well, SFGAm's Deja Vu has a rising floor.  Maybe another Deja Vu doesnt.  It's a possibility, not a very likely one seeing as they were all built the same, but hey who knows.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:20 AM
I went oo and ahh when I saw Deja Vu's floor in motion! For those of you who don't know, it moves forward for a little bit, then lowers on a slant. Is it me, or is this the only invert that has this method of floor lowering?
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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:41 AM
The impulses don't have rising floors. It's almost a little funny to see some tall husbands help their short wives into the seats. :)

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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:45 AM
the SLC's have those floors that go forward a little also.  I assume that its just Vekoma's way of lowering it instead of taking it straight down.

speaking of lowering floors, are there two sets of floors on Dueling Dragons?  my memory is failing me here.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:47 AM
ST Chick: the floor moving foreward then down sounds like a typical Vekoma SLC, so the DV's probably use the same mechanism (although I've never seen a DV, so that is just a guess...)
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:14 AM
The floor moves forward because instead of supporting it on a vertical ram, it is attached to actuator cam arms that rotate on trunnions. When the arm rotates forward 90 degrees, the floor comes down. Rotate back 90 degrees, the floor goes back up. Pneumatic cylinders are used to engage safety pins to prevent the cams from rotating (and thus to prevent the floor from moving) when the floor is in its full-up or full-down position. You can see the mechanism while standing on the exit ramp for Kings Island's "Face/Off".

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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:37 AM
You can also get a good view of the mechanism while standing in line for Two face @ SFA.One thing about those platform mechanisms though.They sure are loud.The system on Two face is louder than on Mind Erasre and it's the same system.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:55 AM
They should put a goal at the end of the station, place a soccer ball at the end, and let the folks in the front row kick a "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLL!" when the train comes hurling through the station. Perhaps they could win a free cigar.

Ok Ok..my point? The floor lowers to protect feet. Why do some not have them? There hasn't been an accident yet? As Jeff points out, the impulses are situated quite high from the stationary station floor. This probably affects loading time a bit, but is easier to maintain than another piece of machinery.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:18 AM
janfrederick said:
"They should put a goal at the end of the station, place a soccer ball at the end, and let the folks in the front row kick a "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLL!" when the train comes hurling through the station. Perhaps they could win a free cigar.

That actuallysounds pretty painful. ya know, flying 50+ mph at a soccer ball.

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:59 AM

P> have ridden B&M inverts/floorless ; Vekoma Deja Vu GB/SLC, and ntamin nverted mpulse. Here are how they are:/P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">All Vekoma inverts have a steel floor that is on a rod-type mechanism that brings the floor forward and down./P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">B&M inverts have a stell floor that lowers straight down, probably (not sure) by means of hydrolics (more expensive, but more efficient ((B&M's are not built cheaply))) /P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">B&M floorless models split in the center and fold off to the sides(hard to xplain this one)/P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">ntamin mpulses have their trains much further from the ground, making it difficult for short people to board. am an average man of 5'10" 165lbs and pretty athletic, and even have a bit of difficulty lifting myself into the seats./P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">B&M and Vekoma lowering floors makes it easier for shorter passengers to board without struggling. would hope to see intamin follow suit with their inverts if possible./P>
My other car is a Giovanola!
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:04 PM
someone has to feel stupid! cause it definately has raisin and lowering floors. if u were payin attention u woulda noticed.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:07 PM
I don't know about ALL B&Ms with lowering floors, but batman the ride at SFGAm is not lowered with hydrolics.  The floor is set on foursteel posts that have wheels on the top end and counterweights on the other end.  When the floor is lowered all 4 posts rotate 90 degrees, which when has the floor being supported length-ways by the posts.  When the floor is raised the posts are rotated 90 degrees in the opposite direction.  That is the general process behind that.  Don't believe me? Even the guests can get a glimpse if they look really close.  When you are in the alley queues(police car, ghetto area) there is an air conditioning  unit in the area that is fenced off.  Look beyond that and up...you need to look for a while because you won't notice the floor unless you see it in motion.

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