Why does CP need so much time?

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:03 PM

Im rather confused about this...

Why is it that CP needs so much time to construct a coaster with such a simple layout? Yes, the height is deffinately a factor, but the season just ended, and the tower is well over 200ft.

Im wondering if maybe they started early construction, just to get everyone talking about it, without them having to make an announcement.

Or maybe its so that they have plenty of time to work out any bugs it might have before opening day.

Any thoughts?

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:07 PM

Testing. Cedar Point saw how pissed people got at the delayed openings of X, Deja Vu, Son of Beast, etc., etc., and they're not willing to take the risk that it might take a while to get up and running.

That's my .02 anyway.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:07 PM

Maybe

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:19 PM

They need time to test of the trains. break them in. Install the lines, make sure all the track peices and suport arrive on time, make sure they have all the crains ready to build the attraction, and marketing. They're might be even more that I left out that they most have completed for the new ride.

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*** This post was edited by Derrick Whitsett on 11/12/2002. ***

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:30 PM

Also.. have you ever been in Sandusky during the winter?? It's not nice weather.

On my last day this season we went to the top of Millennium to remove some equiptment and mind you, it was Novemeber but still NASTY up there.

Weather is a factor more than most would believe. Once you get up over 100 feet, there is nothign to break the wind, and it can cut right through you..

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:31 PM

Den, i agree.

Although i was thinking that it would be more on the lines of avoiding any problems that Xcelerator had when it first opened.

Bigger and Faster is likely to lead to more problems, which this ride is bound to have(or hopefully not, if they can fix them extremely early).

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:01 PM
Red Garter Rob hit the nail on the head. Pretty soon it will be just too cold to do any steel erection, not to mention the winds off the lake really pick up this time of year. Monty will get as much up as the crews can and then mothball it for the winter. Come late March-early April work will start in earnest again. Until then it'll be work in the shops.
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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM
Also, they probably want some time to get the "construction debris" cleaned up, and then reinstall the flats that are staying, deal with theming, landscaping, etc.
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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:16 PM

Didn't it take a while to get Xcelerator's launch mech. running? (CMIIW!)

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:32 PM
well Xcel installed the launch equip right away... i dont think anything like that has been seen at CP yet... and on the main launch... there are no magnetic fins installed... Xcel had those preinstalled... but whatever... lol... we'll see
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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:02 PM

.. again.. Knott's is a year round park...

The weather is a TAD better....

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:18 PM
Did someone say to cold for erection?

Ok for real.. thats true, Cp cant get it up when the guys are blowin off the towers, and its 40 below windchill.... any guy in thier right mind would just roll over and go to sleep!

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Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:50 PM

Yeah, but usually the snow is deep enough that landing doesn't hurt so much. They built Milli in the cold but then she is slightly smaller....

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:41 AM
They probably wanted extra time to build this because those tall cranes may not be able to work in the wind. CP wanted to have enough nice days to work on it. If you watch the web cam, when the weather is nasty, the cranes stay down and they do work at ground level. When the weather is nice, the cranes go back to work.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:05 AM

As a project manager, if mamagement is smart enough to let me start early, I would sure want to.

1) It decreases the risk of being late finishing. Things happen, the more slack time that you have in your schedule, the less likely they are to delay the completion.
2) It gives the the chance of avoiding high work in the worst weather of the year. Look at the pictures of the MF topping sometime and think about being up there with the cold and high winds.
3) It give more time for testing on something that involves new technology.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:06 AM
I would think it's the testing portion that CP is interested in more than working in the cold. I know for a fact they were not happy with the downtime on WT early this past season, and Xcelerator, which is similar, was a bit late as well. CP is going to do what they can to insure as little downtime as possible.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:21 AM
Some good things to think about here...

I too had wondered why CP started construction on this so early if the ride is going to be as short as it appears now. My initial thoughts were that there was a lot more to come that we haven't seen, but the comments about testing, etc., certainly ring true. With all the problems in prototype-style rides lately CP most likely wants to cover all the bases before they open it.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:43 AM

I think you're all making this a bigger deal than it is. They didn't start this project any sooner than Millennium Force, and really not any sooner than Wicked Twister save for maybe two or three weeks.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:31 AM

And to add, CP has always tested their coasters more thoroughly than any other park (from what I have witnessed). That trait is not shared throughout the chain, however. While Millennium had it's "pull through", one for Mamba was never even considered. The ride was brought operational about 3 pm the day prior to opening...with only one train. They had to wait until daily operation to get the third train.

CP should not and will not (within obvious control) allow their new coasters to open late. I feel that should be a common trait among all parks, although there are always situations you never planned happening.

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