Why are there so little new Arrow Loopers?

Tennesee Tornado is very smooth. If there were more Arrows like that, people would love more of their designs.

olov said:
"I think CoasterKrazy meant Colossus at Thorpe Park if you mean the Intamin 10-looper. I hope we wont see more Colossus names, three is enough in europe "

Two. The wooden one at Heide Park is named Colossos. ;)

I have said for a couple years now that an Arrow looper, back in the woods, painted brown like TT would fit in great at Holiday world. I also said they needed a double shot so they might listen to me about the looper too ;)

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Arrow loopers are more of a "first generation" of modern steel coasters. It's kind of like Arrow passed the ball on to B&M, Intamin, Morgan, and others.

Speaking of Arrow coasters in general, I remember when Cedar Point's star attractions were Corkscrew and Gemini (well, Gemini is still popular and a favorite of many). I absolutely love these new thrill rides the coaster firms come out with now, but I miss the good old days when things were much simpler.

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olov said:
I think CoasterKrazy meant Colossus at Thorpe Park if you mean the Intamin 10-looper. I hope we wont see more Colossus names, three is enough in europe

You're right, I did mean Thorpe Park. I actually went to rcdb.com to find out how to spell "Heide" and found that the Colossus I was looking for was actually at Thorpe Park. I just forgot to change it.

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I'm still trying to figure out why parks aren't going for Intamin loopers in the U.S. Is it the cost? I have no idea what an Intamin looper costs compared to a B&M looper though.

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Hmm...... Intamin loopers. You're right. Actually there are really only two in the world, right? :( (Not counting Schwarzs/B&Ms) Monte Makaya and Colossus. So really they aren't going for them anywhere. I can't figure out a reason though.

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S00perGIR said:
Hmm...... Intamin loopers. You're right. Actually there are really only two in the world, right? (Not counting Schwarzs/B&Ms) Monte Makaya and Colossus. So really they aren't going for them anywhere. I can't figure out a reason though.
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Isnt there an Avalancha that is Monte Makaya's clone? I know there is another Intamin 8-looper besides Makaya.

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Oh yeah.... not an exact clone but similar. There is Dragon Khan too, but it is B&M.

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Yeah, there is an Intamin 10-looper called Avalanche at some park in Mexico.

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If your going to install a looper, the best ride for your money is an Arrow looper, plus they are such better rides.

Dorney Dante said:

"Yeah, there is an Intamin 10-looper called Avalanche at some park in Mexico"

Um, no. Having just been to the only two parks in Mexico that could support such a coaster I can tell you that it does not exist in that country.

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Avalancha is in Guatemala.

The first loop of Tennesse Tornado looks like a graceful moment when time almost stands still. Two of the big downfalls of the other arrow loopers, those tight radius loops that whip you neck back as you go through them, and their unpadded seats. Couple this with horrible transitions like Shockwave, its easy to see why these rides have such a bad reputation.

I must say that I personally hate Viper at SFMM, for example, it's rough, whipping around, and worst of all, for me at 6'4 it's a pain to sit in those trains.
However, sometimes I start to get bored at the ever - the - same sequence of inversions that B&Ms have, even though their smoothness can be a religious experience sometimes.
It seems as if Arrow could find a niche in the B&M dominated market with its original ride designs. Of course, the outside-rail track looks much more fragile and skinny (and 80ies) than the stout B&M square box, but I still think they have a chance to offer an interesting alternative now that they seem to have figured out how to create unusual custom designed ride elements and provide a smooth ride.

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super7 said:

Avalancha is in Guatemala.
The first loop of Tennesse Tornado looks like a graceful moment when time almost stands still. Two of the big downfalls of the other arrow loopers, those tight radius loops that whip you neck back as you go through them, and their unpadded seats. Couple this with horrible transitions like Shockwave, its easy to see why these rides have such a bad reputation.

I actually enjoy the cookie cutter loops that Arrow had on all of their original loopers. When I finally learned to keep my head against the head-rest, they became one of my favorite elements. When I first started riding rides like Vortex at Paramount's Kings Island and Corkscrew at Cedar Point, I would stick my head in front of the restraints to keep headbanging to a minimum. This would would also push my head down as the train went through the vertical loops. Now, I keep my head up, and the vertical loops are smooth and intense

I would also suspect that if a park wanted a small Arrow looper, that there's a good chance that they would buy a used, or perhaps a used Vekoma or Schwartzkopf looper.

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