Why are B&M fussy about their inversions??

Thursday, June 7, 2001 11:30 PM
None of their SD/F coasters have Reverse Diving Loops (Immelman) with the exception of Wildfire or Batwings & Inclined Loops either. Their Inverts have no D.Loops & I.Loops. Stand Ups have no R.D.Loops, 0-G Rolls & double-inversion elements. Have I left out anything?

Why is this? It would be great to swap these inversions around. BTW, did you know every SD/F has a C.Roll with the exception of Medusa West?
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Friday, June 8, 2001 1:57 AM
Perhaps it is the amount of strain on the human body, I'd hate to go through a Zero G roll standing up, personally, I would fall out. *** This post was edited by john peck on 6/8/2001. ***
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Friday, June 8, 2001 3:25 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to say that Drayton Manor's Intamin SU (B&M style track) Shockwave is an exception, has a Zero-G Roll/Inline Twist as seen in this photo; www.coaster-network.com/bm/intamin/wpe8.jpg Someone said it's awesome.

My theory as to why S.Ups don't have double-inversion elements is there may be too many Gs & you would get whipped around. A way around this is to join a R.D.Loop to a D.Loop as to make a gentle, giant C.Roll. If Riddler's 2nd D.L exited on the other side, viola! A gentle, giant batwing.
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Friday, June 8, 2001 4:12 AM
Or maybe they just didn't want the element in the coaster.

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Friday, June 8, 2001 7:49 AM
I think it's more about what the park wants. Also certian inversions tend to work better on certian coaster types.
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Friday, June 8, 2001 8:01 AM
Parks decide what inversions go into a coaster, not the designer.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:36 PM
Doesn't Chang have a cobra roll, or something very similar to one? I remember the first time that I saw a pic of it, I couldn't believe that it could be done on a standup, but there it was!

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:40 AM

irondraggon said:
"Doesn't Chang have a cobra roll, or something very similar to one? I remember the first time that I saw a pic of it, I couldn't believe that it could be done on a standup, but there it was!

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there is no cobra roll on chang, but there is no reason why you couldn't have one on a standup.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:24 AM
Giovanola is better for the stand-ups then, they will build stand-ups and with 0-g rolls too!

Will there ever be a stand-up with a cobra roll ?

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:31 AM
Maybe, but I dont see a Giovanola stand-up, do you?

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:34 AM
No but Go to there web site, They do manufacture them, just no park has purchased one yet, I amsure one will be on its way within the next 10 years.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:02 AM
Who Cares, B and M coasters always are awesome..I have absolutley no problem with there choice of inversion types. I haven't found one of their coasters that hasn't completely blown me away! Yes, even the old Vortex's are good compared to the TOGO standups!!

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:41 AM
Iron Wolf is at least 5 times better than King Cobra.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:02 PM
I thought Giovanola was quitting the roller coaster business. So I guess we won't be seeing a standup from them.

King Cobra is my favorite stand up and I'd venture to say that it's five times better than Iron Wolf.

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Hurry up and open Delay-ja Vu!! *** This post was edited by inverted_one on 6/13/2001. ***
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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:09 PM
If a B&M stand up got a cobra roll, how do you thinks your legs will hold up? You think a Stand-Up train will fit in a barre roll? Although I am wondering why there is only one B&M with a heart loop(Montu).
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Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:14 PM
A B&M coaster that had really disappointing inversions is Batman Knight Flight. They could have done better than a loop, cobra roll(i think), and two corkscrews. The ride was still fun, but could've been much better. At least an inclined loop or dive loop would've been cool.

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