I would advise doing the Statue of Liberty on a seperate day so you can really enjoy SFGAdv. Also then you can go into NYC and see lots of sights there, such as the World Trade Center, Empire State Building, Times Square, etc. They are not to be missed. Also Coney Island is about a 20-30 minute ride on the subway from Times Square.
Also dont forget that New Jersey has some awesome not to be missed seashore pier parks, such as those in Wildwood.
EDIT - added the piers bit. *** Edited 8/8/2006 4:14:00 PM UTC by beast7369***
There definately still is room for significant improvement in park operations, but at least it seemed to be better than my previous experiences (though I have no benchmark to use as a comparison for Great Adventure.) One thing to pass along though. If it is as hot as it was the day when I was there, memorize where the drinking fountains are as you go around. In certain areas there certainly were some shortages in their numbers.
On another note, if you want to "lay back" a bit at a park, Rye Playland was a decent park to go for a slightly slower pace. Growing up near Cleveland, I was happy to ride another Racing Derby...
Honestly, I won't be upset if I miss KK. I've ridden TTD countless times and I don't want to spend half my day waiting for that ride.
I never drove directly between Great Adventure and the Statue of Liberty but I think it might be a tad longer than 45 minutes!
SFGAdv used to be my favorite SF park. As of late, it has just gone downhill. Actually, pretty much since the Premier takeover, it's gotten worse than it was under Time Warner.
You should enjoy yourself. I went to SFMM for the first time this year, and I got to see first-hand some of the negatives about the place, but fortunately it wasn't too crowded, and I still had a good time, even though I did complain a lot :)
coastin' since 1985
That is not taking into account traffic and crowds, as well as security screenings and check points and schedules on the island itself.
Unless you're willing to fork over the cash for a q-bot.
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
coastin' since 1985
Oh, and the Statue of Liberty might be more than 45 min away. (a good rule of thumb is to add 2 hours to whatever you think your trip time should be :) ) Seriously, tho, enjoy your trip to NJ/NY.
As far as Operations go i was still left unimpressed. Superman only had one train and 5 plus minute dispatch times. Kingda Ka was dispatching on average once every 5 to 10 minutes with several occassion breakdowns...surprise surprise. Nitro was using three trains but never saw them once close to hitting interval.
The park in my opinion does look a lot nicer/cleaner since my visit two years ago. While I thought the Goldem Kingdom and the new area looked good i think it was a little too hyped up and i was expecting to much. It was nice to see garbage cans not overflowing and somewhat clean bathrooms this year though. The one question I have to some of the regulars is if they know why all the pop machines would be unplugged on a 90+degree Saturday, made absolute no sense to me or the people I was with.
I would definately plan on still going but if it is busy I really reccomend getting a qbot, I hate spending the cash but it really saves a lot of headaches. If you take that route spend one day at the park and two days in New York it is a great city. I made my first visit two months ago and have been back three times since, I love having a girlfriend that lives in Manhatten. Whatever you do go in with an open mind and I'm sure you will have fun.
Man, that really is not cool--to have to get a gold qbot just to enjoy a day at the park. Also, to have S:UF running 1 train is awful.
I really hope that this place seriously gets turned around, and I hope it bites them in the wallet until they do. The prices are ridiculous, the operations are crummy, and all of the rides aren't open--some of them major ones. *** Edited 8/8/2006 9:32:45 PM UTC by rablat5***
coastin' since 1985
Shapiro needs to reevaluate the situation once again if he cant pull a profit without charging that much money to just park! I would almost be tempted to just drive away and not come back if
I was faced with a parking price like that.
It sounds to me like SF is nowhere near where they should be operations wise. They need to make some more serious changes, and fast!
But, in those three experiences, I have found nothing but great things at this park. The rides are amazing, it's a virtual B&M schmorgasboard! I haven't ridden Ka or Toro, neither were open/built yet when I was there last. The most I ever waited for something was about an hour for Nitro, and I've always seen great operations on Nitro, one of the more impressive crews I've ever seen. There was some slow ops, Batman mostly, and the inherent slowness of Chiller was annoying, but I got over it.
I would definitely recommend the park, but by all means, don't expect a shining jewel. Go in there remembering that these are just kids, they're hot, they're working long days dealing with mostly annoying people, and the rides don't get the maintenance they really need. Have a great time, I'll be there the last weekend of this month.
I've made it clear before that SFGAdv isn't my favorite place in the world but I would never tell somebody to not go if they'd never seen it for themselves.
AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf
Have fun, we'll be waiting for the TR!
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