Who owns the Warner Bros. Movie World chain?

Saturday, April 26, 2003 4:49 PM
Is it owned by the current SFI or Time Warner? Would there ever be a chance of a WBMW in FL since there isn't a great coaster park in FL. There are a few parks with one or two really good coasters and since a CP type park may not go over too well because of lack of theming I'd think a WBMW type park which specializes in major thrill coasters but with good themeing would give IOA a run for its money. FL really needs a near clone of the world's greatest steelie @ SFNE full of airtime and most of the other parks are either too family oriented or landlocked. A S:ROS @ 220' tall can be built in FL is beacon lights are placed on a "Do Not Stand Up" sign on top of the lift hill. And since SF is in deep debt I am hoping WBMW is in as good of shape as CF. I think a good location for a WBMW park would be the old Circus World (Boardwalk & Baseball) property. BTW how many acres does the old B&B property have?
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Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:27 PM
Yes, Six Flags Inc. does own the WBMW chain.

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Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:35 PM
Not quite true...

My understanding is that Six Flags own the German park. They have around a 10% ownership of Madrid, and hold the managing rights to that park. Warner Bros. also have a 5% stake in Madrid if I recall correctly.

The Australian one is owned by Village Roadshow and Warner Bros. It's never had anything to do with Six Flags (despite rumours at one stage that there was a buyout imminent). The only ties between the Australian park and European ones, other than the name and ride clones, is that the CEO of Warner Village Theme Parks (they own three parks in Australia) did consulting work when they were designing Germany.

Anyone could technically open a Warner Bros. Movie World park; send WB a nice cheque and you'll be free to open one.

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So what if the best coaster in Australia is a second hand Arrow?

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Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:57 PM
I don't know who "owns" it, but Six Flags Inc. runs both of them.

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:12 AM
If they're owned by Six Flags, if I have a Six Flags Season Pass, will I be able to get into the Warner Bros parks using the pass?
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Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:09 AM
well if you go to six flags' website WBMW is on there(europe) so yea in all likelyhood you could get in with a season pass.
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Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:43 AM
Warner Bros. Movie World Florida

NEW! Eraser The Ride, A new kind of experece were you stand-up on a inverted roller coaster.

COOOLLLLLLLLL!!!

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:54 AM
You can NOT enter the spanish park with the European SF Season Pass. So I guess the american pass won´t get you in either. This has to do with Madrid just being a SF managed park. There are more differences between the spanish park and the two others, which are more or less identical.

The australian and german version were designed to emphasize on movie themes. The Madrid park is like a blueprint for what a SF park could be, if they were all built from scratch and with lots of cash!

Even the spanish park could in no way give IOA a run for the money. Apart from SUPERMAN, (the best B&M of them all), you´ll find a BATMAN clone, a BORING woodie and a Vekoma Giant Invertigo which runs as reliable as the others (i.e.: barely ever).

The theming is partially very nice, partially inexistent. But whats more interesting is the emptiness of MW Madrid. You can basically ERT on the coasters, just the water rides have a queue. It seems the park is not the success it was planned to be. Madrid is the only big city in the vicinity. It is a tourist destination, but its in no way a holiday destination because its in the middle of the country. PORT AVENTURA has the better location and is still a strong tourist market, because its is located next to the sea.

It is always said that the spanish love to go out with the whole family (i.e. big family). For a family of, say eight or ten people, it is nearly unaffordable to go to Movie World.


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Sunday, April 27, 2003 9:11 AM
I've heard only good things about Vekoma woodies, and see absolutely nothing wrong with a Batman clone. :)

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 9:20 AM
@Bullguy: I never wanted to say anything bad against a Batman clone! Its one of the best designs ever and I think everybody should have one.

Vekoma woodies are great (especially THUNDERCOASTER at Tusenfryd) but the woodie in Madrid is made by Intamin/Rcca! Its designed by Stengel and it is easily one of his weaker designs. The ride is not about airtime (it has none) but it is full of wide stretched helices. It is actually quite boring.

The woodie in the german park is as well by Intamin/Rcca. It is a Cyclone-clone which now runs Premiere trains (SOB). Its a decent ride, but the maintenance lacks some tlc.

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 9:43 AM
Thanks for pointing that out about the woodie. I was always under the impression that it was Vekoma.

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 12:19 PM
A Florida park with a 150' tall Intamin airtime woodie like Viper @ SFGAm or Balder(Wild Wild West), 300 foot combo shot (w/becon), a 165' tall B&M inverted (Batman-larger version with more elements), a 150' tall B&M flyer (S:UF), a 165' clone of S:ROS @ WBMW (Riddler's Revenge) and a near clone and improved version (not indentical) of S:ROS @ SFNE. I understand that the Madrid park has a very boring woodie but there is no reason that a new WBMW park can't have a good airtime woodie and several good rides. A park with FIVE WORLD CLASS coasters should be able to compete against IOA if the themeing is well done IMHO. Does anyone else think there is room for a park like that in FL especiall the Orlando or Miami area?
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Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:06 PM
No. Anyone who decides to build in an already saturated market is just asking for trouble. Universal and Disney continue to do well because they offer something you can't get at your local theme park. Only enthusiasts travel across the country to go to a Six Flags-type ride park.

-Nate

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Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:24 PM
Would Miami be a better maket for a WBMW than Orlando?
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Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:33 PM
Miami would be a decent market for a Six Flags. I don't think a Warner Brothers Movie World would work with Universal only hours away. The problem is Six Flags doesn't build parks from scratch and its very costly. So there will probably never be a Six Flags in South Florida even though the area needs a small park with thrill rides. You don't want to run competition with Orlando because you will be put out of business quick especially since Orlando is only 3 hours away from Miami.

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Mike
Favorite Wood: Viper at SFGAM,Shivering Timbers
Favorite Steel: Magnum and Raging Bull

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Monday, April 28, 2003 7:30 AM
Florida has no good coaster parks? What about Busch?

BGT has two OUTSTANDING B&M coasters- Kumba and Montu. It has a GCI woodie- one with two unique tracks! I found it to offer everything I could ask for in a wooden coaster- airtime, laterals, disorienting layout and a hint of roughness that doesn't detract from the experience. And don't forget a simple but still fantastic Schwarzkopf looper. The only "loser" in the parks collection, as far as I can tell, is the Arrow corkscrew, which isn't BAD, just isn't very thrilling.

I can name, on one hand, how many parks I have visited with four great coasters. BGT is definitely one of them.

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-Rob

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Monday, April 28, 2003 8:16 AM
I rode Gwazi in late December 1999. Is there a big difference in it now? I am referring to parks like SF or CP but with much more and better theming. I haven't ridden Scorpion or the Python because the lines were too long. Montu and Kumba had the shortest waits. What FL lacks is a very serious nonstop airtime machine like Shivering Timbers, Georgia Cyclone, Apollo Chariot, Nitro or S:ROS @ SFNE. I have heard rumors that BGT isn't too intersted in adding anything new for a long time. They really need an airtime hyper or top 5 airtime woodie very badly. Maybe I should give Gwazi another try but I only thought it was OK at best with barly hints of airtime. I want sustaining airtime like on Viper @ SFGAm. Does the DBH offer that. I hope it isn't overrated. I have hear mixed reviews about that ride so I am not totally convince that it is that great unlike S:ROS @ SFNE which every review was great. I can trust that coaster giving me a great ride even though I haven't ridden it yet because of so many people saying it's the best. I just wish someone in FL has the balls to build one of these. Only the top of the lift hill of S:ROS needs becons.
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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:54 PM
How can you call Thundercoaster at Tusenfryd great? I rode it on may 4th and it totally sucked. No airtime experienced...
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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:23 PM

Pink Floyd Fanatic said:
I am not totally convince that it is that great unlike S:ROS @ SFNE which every review was great. I can trust that coaster giving me a great ride even though I haven't ridden it yet because of so many people saying it's the best.

Okay, first, you need to read the post that delt with Biggest dissapointments on overhyped coasters. Just cause lots of people like something, dosen't mean you will too, trust me. Second, Florida isn't that huge of a state, and it already has 2 Major Theme parks and one VERY large themed resort. I'd almost bet we'll never see a Six Flags down there, unless some small park away from Orlando grows larger in a few years, and SFI sees it as financially feasable.

As for WBMW, as far as I know, they started those parks when Time-Warner still owned SFI, and were trying something different. Though they still own in part or whole the parks, they sold SFI for a reason, and decided to get out of the theme park business as a whole, and have just retained some parks that have a larger holdings on AOL Time-Warner properties/licenses, since thats how they make their $$$ from SFI(probably another reason they are in such debt...). What I'm trying to say is, don't hold your breath. I live in West Virginia, and the only park we have here is Camden, it's 7 hrs. away, and I'm not very close to any other parks, big or small. Florida has a few Big parks and a few small parks, so be happy with what you have there, and try not to speculate too much, it just tends to let our hopes down....:)
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Yeah, if coasters WEREN'T men we'd have Raging Cow instead!;)Y

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:36 PM
Is Thundercoaster braked to death?
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