who built this?

Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:11 AM

Anyone know who built this coaster? It has Arrow/Vekoma style track, but a Schwarzkopf style loop structure....

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1906.htm?Picture=2

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:52 AM
There were other companies that used that loop style. King Cobra at Kings Island used a loop like that and it was a Togo. I know this isn't a Togo casue the running rails are on the wrong side (they should beon the outside of the ties). The train looks very Vekoma-ish though so you got me stumped.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:06 AM
I think it might be Arrow, maybe another one of their LoopScrew models. The trains do look Vekoma-ish but there are vekomas with arrow trains and arrows with vekoma so I don't know for sure.
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:10 AM
Its a modifired version of the Vekoma Corkscrew.
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:04 AM
That's an Arrow. You can tell because of the track, the trains and the supports. The track is MK1200, which is only used by Arrow and Vekoma. The train is a new-style Arrow train, only used by Arrow. The supports around the corkscrew are Arrow-style. So it's an Arrow.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:44 AM
I can't get past that loop though. None of the Arrow coasters I've seen have a loop like that.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:53 AM

Maybe its Meisho, the track looks a little different than this coaster, http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1128.htm

but it is same style loop, guide wheels on inside, etc. Track styles do change as a manufacturer progresses. Look how many styles Schwarzkopf has.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:06 AM

Strange. I just looked a little more closely to the lay-out, and it looks like a standard Vekoma Tornado. Could be a Meisho, but I'm not convinced. Meisho's track resembles the MK1200 used by Arrow, but it's a bit lower.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:16 AM
Well, the problem with that theory (although it DOES look like Vekoma to me) is that the Tornado model is listed as having only a single 'screw...
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:28 AM
Sorry, off course a Tornado only has one screw. I ment a Hurricane, which is one vertical loop and a double screw.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:37 AM

Sure looks like Meisho to me..... I remember Vekoma partnered with Meisho on alot of their coasters(Moonsault Scramble as an example) so it makes sense that the rides resemble that Vekoma/Arrow look.

The odd thing is... It does have the exact layout as Arrow's LoopScrew model.. very strange

It is hard to track down photos of alot of Meisho's stuff. They have built over 40 coasters though....

*** This post was edited by Chris Godsey on 12/19/2002. ***

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:44 AM
Haha this park need to do there english hwk! the english translation on the sign (pic 3) says Amuscment instead of amusement! haha i'm bored.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:05 AM

Well, it's not an Arrow coaster as far as I'm concerned. Look at the track in the bottom left-hand corner of the picture. Now, compare it to these Arrow coasters:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery11.htm?Picture=9

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery13.htm?Picture=1

Notice how the Arrow track seems to be more "sqaure," and not as rounded out as the other track? I'm not 100% sure it's not an Arrow coaster, but the track is a pretty good indicator.

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*** This post was edited by CoasterKrazy on 12/19/2002. ***

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:50 AM
CoasterKrazuy, look at Tennesee Tornado by Arrow, its got the roundest track i've seen, track styles do very as the company does get older....

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery534.htm?Picture=4

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:56 AM
Yeah but Arrow has only had two types of track. If you really look at the two tracks there is a huge difference. Vekoma/Arrow track it looks like the diaganal tie that holds the spine to the actual rail ties is just a sheet of metal welded on. Like you see the ridges between pieces. The track we are trying to figure out is different, its all smooth and the diaganol from the spine stretches all the way to the vertical part of the tie. Unlike the Vekoma/Arrow track that only goes part way out to the side before joining the tie. So IMO it isn't Arrow or Vekoma, I guess its this Meisho company unless there is something else out there as well.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:12 AM

I'm ruling out Arrow, although it is an exact copy of Arrow's loopscrew layout. Meisho is a definite possibility, but I think it could just as easily be a Senyo:

Check out the nearly identical loops:

Roll Coaster

Atomic - Senyo shuttle loop

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:19 AM
I think Vater's right. Senyo looks identical for track and sups when everything else (Arrow, Vekoma, and Meisho) are only identical track.
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:32 AM
Looking at the other pictures (particularly the one with the corkscrew inversions), I am led to believe that this is an Arrow Loop-Screw. The only thing it lacks is an Arrow teardrop loop.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:58 PM
Im pretty sure thats a Meshio. Thunderbolt at Dreamworld has a very similar structure and there are a ton of loopers in Japan built by them
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:43 PM
Jephry(Info) (Edit) (Quote)12/19/2002, 11:44:27 AMI can't get past that loop though. None of the Arrow coasters I've seen have a loop like that. "Thunderbolt" at Dramworld (Australia) is the same make as this coaster, With the same loop design, (rough as all hell though!)

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