Where's the wood?

Cedar Point only has 2 woodies. No matter how hard you try, Gemini is not wood! I wonder if Cedar Point is ever going to get another woodie? Do you think they need one? I do! I just wish they had a mountain or hills to build it on.
Well yes and no. I would like a woodie if and only if it is going to be smooth. I do not want to see another Mean streak woodie. I do like mean streak however the bumps are not fun sometimes. There is nothing like a wooden coaster when you ride it. I do like how mean streak is long and winds all through itself. Short coasters are not my favorite. Woodies are a different experience then typical steel coasters we always see. If CCI can make a smooth woodie (which i think they can) then yes I would like to see another woodie at CP. It just saddens me every time I ride mean streak that such a big long and could be fun coaster is so rough. I would give woodies a second chance if they fixed the rough bug.

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I think that Cedar Point, and probably the whole industry, understands now that bigger isn't always better. Look at this whole crop of 90 to 130-foot CCI woodies that get the fabulous reviews. If they ever do build one, and I'm hoping they do, it should be a nice ride in this class.

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All we need is a nice out and back woodie along the beach. Nothing spectacular, but a nice, fun woodie. Then bring in the B&M Floorless! ;)


BTW: Everyone says, "CP won't get a floorless because SFO is getting one." Well, thats bull because Six Flags has an inverted, PKI has a woodie. Seriously, CP will do what ever they think will thrill people in the area. You'll be seeing a floorless in the near future at CP. You have my word.
How do you know that for sure, do you work there?
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Well, it's been nearly 3 years now, and I have yet to see new wood.

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The cost of a nice little fun, air time filled woodie would be a drop in the bucket compared to the 12 to 25 million they spend on other coasters. I don't see why they couldn't build one next year if they wanted. It's a shame that they didn't do that to begin with, PKI too. They could have saved millions and had a ride that everyone loved.

I would personally like to see a jr. woodie at CP. Something with like a 42" height requirement. Having an almost 4 year old, who likes coasters and is ready for something more intermmediate, CP doesn't offer such a coaster.

Their currect coasters jump from a 36" to a 46" requirement. That's a big gap. I know that Woodstock Express is a good start, but something a little bigger in the wood department to get kids introduced to woodied would be a great addition. This is where PKI excels, I just wish we lived closer.

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Lori - who hopes Koaster King is reading. ;)

In my opinion, Cedar Point should go the way of Paramount's Kings Island, and build flat rides instead of coasters. I think it would be nice if in 2004, we saw a few small flats, like a HUSS Topple Tower or others that are similar to the classic flats like Scrambler, Witches Wheel, and Chaos. Then in 2005, a HUSS Land of the Giants, which would really help Cedar Point's flat count. This is just what I would like to se at Cedar Point, and NOT "what they need to help attendance."

As far as wooden coasters go, I would like to see a new one at some point, but I think that they should fix Mean Streak before another woodie is built. Blue Streak is a GREAT ride, and Mean Streak has GREAT potential, but it's certainly not the best ride in the world. That can de demonstrated by the 10 minute lines on the most busy days. Yes, Mean Streak isn't in the best location, but the ride itself isn't helping to bring the guests. I think that Cedar Point should do whatever they need to do in order to make Mean Streak the ride that it could be. Fast, fun, smooth, and lots of laterals. Not slow, rough, and boring,

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Jeff said:
I think that Cedar Point, and probably the whole industry, understands now that bigger isn't always better.

3 years later... Dragster would suggest otherwise. However, maybe they do understand that bigger does not always equal better, but saw the Dragster option to have the biggest return on investment, which is obviously the most important thing (or maybe Dragster will actually turn out to be bigger and better)

Records = money = more important than what enthusiasts happen to think would have been a better option.

Or maybe CP are just addicted to records! I wonder if CP will ever put in a non-record breaking ride? I would imagine that there is a certain pressure to always build a record breaker, because of the reputation they have built up.

*** This post was edited by Mr Rush on 1/11/2003. ***

I agree, CP does need a wood to even it all out. Woodies take up more room but from what I hear CP is not out of room. But they don't need to make it a record breaker, just a fun one.
I for one hope that Cedar Point does nothing other then Lighthouse Point in 2004 to spread out the capital funds to the other parks for that year.

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What I know CF parks doesn't share the money... or do they?

Mike Schulte said:
All we need is a nice out and back woodie along the beach. Nothing spectacular, but a nice, fun woodie.


They do have a fun out-and-back woodie. It's sort of on the beach. It outlines the park.. thought of it yet? Blue Streak! One of the best woodies in the world. It's kind of small, but a unique riding experience for the whole family. I think CP has enough woodies.

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Blue Streak is one of the best woodies in the world? It is an out-n-back, and it IS the best wood in the park (now, at least)...but BS isn't *that* good. It's a classic John Allen, and as such a reasonably predictable family coaster. GG or GCI could design a ride that could fit in along the beachfront and provide an *intense* airtime woodie with a more interesting layout than BS....but I don't realistically see it happening anytime soon.

On the topic of what *could* happen, I agree with loriu....ad even though I have no 4-year-old, you'd better believe I'd get in a few laps on a junior wood. (Because basically, I'm my own 4-year-old)...:)

Wow CoasterKrazy! 10 inute lines on the busiest days for MS?! I have yet to se that. I went on a wednesday mid late season last year, and we waited 45 minutes for Mean Streak, and only 30 for Maggie. My experience over the last 3-4 years is that the line for Mean Streak has always been longer than Maggie. And I ALWAYS go on off days.... hmmmm Maybe I should go when they are busy because I LOOOVE MS!
Everytime I have gone to Cedar Point, the wait for Mean Streak was almost never more than 10 minutes. I've been there several times in June, July, and August. The short waits may be attributed to when I happened to ride Mean Streak, but I still have yet to wait more than 15 minutes.

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Wow. I was at CP in late May last season and waited about 10-15 minutes for MS, and that was only because somebody lost their lunch on the train before I was supposed to board and they dry ran it for a few minutes. Magnum was around a 15-20 minute wait.

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The longest wait I had for MS last year was 20 minutes. I made at least 6 trips.

Wabash, you'd be surprised at how much a nice woodie costs. Maybe not initially, but I'm under the impression that woodies are much more expensive to maintain than steel is.

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I waited 3hrs for MS once. And beside, BS is awesome, especially when it drops right into the most misproportioned second on the planet.

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