where would Holiday World added another coasterI?

Thursday, July 4, 2002 10:28 AM

what would be the best location? it would have to be on the edge somewhere to keep the lost-in-the-woods feeling. possibly behind zoombabwee? anything farther apart than the legend to raven would disrupt srm ert.

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 12:02 PM

If they call CCI again...........they could put it anywhere. Here's the BUT: HW does not have the money to be pumping out a big woodie every 2 years, thus we will be waiting for a couple of years to find out.

Quote from one of their security managers last week while I made my first visit. "If capacity begins to become a problem, where we are busy like this everyday, Will (Koch) has already said that we will be getting something big in the near future and he's not necessarily talking about a coaster." He then eluded to a S&S shot/ Intamin Gyro Drop ride.....but he stayed away from any speculation of a coaster.

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 12:45 PM
How do you know all of this about HW's money woody? Are you the part owner of HW or something???

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 12:56 PM

Woody said:

He then eluded to a S&S shot/ Intamin Gyro Drop ride.....but he stayed away from any speculation of a coaster.



Who in the world did you talk to? The Dippin' Dots guy is a whole lot more reliable. :)

Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 1:14 PM

Marimbaguy, question answered in two parts. Can HW afford a B&M with 8 inversions that runs about $14 million? No, but they can improve their capital with smaller rides or water slides, like Zoombabwe that is family in nature and involves the entire amusement park dollar. They are not corporate giants like SF, CF or Paramount, who pump out coasters in their big parks every 2 seasons. Secondly, ask Paula, I'm sure they don't have the funds to build world-beating coasters every 2 to 4 years, either. And one more thing: is there a disclaimer behind my name saying "Holiday World Vice President". I didn't think so. Basically, leave the childish sarcasm and ego at the door. I just visited the park and realized that you haven't, so enough said.

I can't remember his name, Paula. About 5'10, dark hair, glasses, about 23-25 years old. Wearing a microphone, for security purposes. We had lunch with him last Tuesday next to the Legend.

But, as a matter of fact, the Dippin' Dots dude was full of rumors....... ; )

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 1:52 PM

Woody said:

But, as a matter of fact, the Dippin' Dots dude was full of rumors....... ; )



Oh, dear. Now what?! :)

Yes, we are talking about something big for 2003. But it's just early talk right now. And it is based on the fantastic season we're having...we weren't planning another big ride so soon.

Whatever it is...it will be family oriented.

Thanks, Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 2:04 PM

I was just kidding about the DD guy!! Too funny! That's great to hear about 2003. The guy I talked with said that the great season HW is having is the reason for the new attraction, too. Great to hear.

Funny, but we didn't get a response back from Marimbaguy87, he must have read your posts and wondered where age and experience fit into the conversation. : ) I'm no expert by any means, but HW is a class act, thru & thru! I had a wonderful time!

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 5:09 PM
Why does it have to be so improbable of Holiday World getting a state of the art steel thrill ride? Yeah, the park is supposed to be traditional and so are the coasters, but that doesn't mean they CAN'T have something steel, or something like a gyro drop.
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Thursday, July 4, 2002 5:28 PM

Don't you have a Lemon Chill Guy(TM) at HW, Paula? He is THE MAN!

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 7:31 PM

BRENTWOOD23 said:
Why does it have to be so improbable of Holiday World getting a state of the art steel thrill ride? Yeah, the park is supposed to be traditional and so are the coasters, but that doesn't mean they CAN'T have something steel, or something like a gyro drop.


It's not, people are just concerned about the atmosphere of the park.

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 7:36 PM
The glass blower knows the real secrets :~D! Just kidding. There is some room next to the Raven station where another station could be built, but I don't know, with Raven curving through the forest a lot of the ride might have to be underground, which is not bad by any means. A twisted mine-ride like LoCoSuMo would be cool, and might fit the park, but I don't know the odds of that happening. I don't see any mega-coaster coming to HW withen the next 10 years, but some world class smaller coasters and rides are quite a possibility.

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 8:07 PM
Alright. 1.) It wasn't supposed to be sarcasm, and I don't think I have that much of an ego, yes I'm 15 but I'm not childish. Thanks for flaming me I really appreciate that! Also, no I haven't been there yet, but I am going to be this year. I never meant to upset anyone by that, it just ticks me off when people make generalizations about what a park has or doesn't have money-wise unless they don't have proof. If you can show me proof, then I'll apologize and shut up.

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 9:05 PM

Alright. 1.) It wasn't supposed to be sarcasm, and I don't think I have that much of an ego, yes I'm 15 but I'm not childish. Thanks for flaming me I really appreciate that! Also, no I haven't been there yet, but I am going to be this year. I never meant to upset anyone by that, it just ticks me off when people make generalizations about what a park has or doesn't have money-wise unless they don't have proof. If you can show me proof, then I'll apologize and shut up. 2.) Funny how that last flame at me makes you seem just as childish. Oh yeah, and just because you're older doesn't always mean everyone younger than you is always wrong.

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Yes I'm 15, no I'm not childish, I'm not being sarcastic, well maybe I do have somewhat of an ego...

*** This post was edited by MarimbaGuy 87 on 7/5/2002. ***

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Thursday, July 4, 2002 9:43 PM

I'm not going to get into this with you, but, here it is. Yes, I'm sorry that I said "the last thing", but when you say that about someone on the forums, 2 times out of 3, you find someone who has much more knowledge than you think. I've done it before, heck, just ask Arrowguy. Like I said, I don't know EVERYTHING and will never claim to, but I know a park has less money than another by these simple rules: a) size, b) overall capital (amount of rides, attractions, food stalls, staffing, if they have a water park adjacent, etc), and c) who owns the park (family, corporate, group). d) along with a few other small objectives.

I would not have flamed back, I assure you, if you wouldn't have treated me like road kill in the first place. The age thing? Hell, try being addicted to this business for 20 years, let alone add your age to that, and you have mine. Experienced? Yeah, but knowing everything about the biz, that's why I'm on the forums, I learn as I go and include my knowledge and experience where needed. Uhm........like in this situation, where Paula seconded the motion.

Marimbaguy, I hope you have a great summer touring our wonderful nation on its Independence Day, please keep your hands and feet inside the car at all times.

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Friday, July 5, 2002 7:21 AM

And the hits keep on coming!

But anyways, yesterday, I was talking to the guy at the ticket counter, and HE says...

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Friday, July 5, 2002 7:28 AM
Well, getting back to the original topic, there are family oriented coasters which fit into tight places. A good mine train, a new Wild Mouse like the Ricochet at Carowinds, an expanded Scooby Doo Ghost Coaster like at PKI but much longer, or a Saturator like at Carowinds or Hershey but placed over in or on the boundary of the water park.

HW could also consider a state of the art dark ride, maybe an improved version of KW's Exterminator (not that the Exterminator needs improved on).

Or it could build a version of that new Ferris Wheel Disney World has in California, where the cars actually circle around those triangular tracks between the axle and the rim. People would drive a long way to ride one of those.

None of these suggestions would take up much space, and all would be family oriented.
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Friday, July 5, 2002 8:32 AM

Raven Maven said:

Whatever it is...it will be family oriented.



Hey Paula, that's what we were TOLD about Cornball...;).

Just kidding with you, HW is the one park I'd visit even if you added nothing.....but NOW you've got me intrigued.....see you at SRM '03....and '04....and so on.....

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Friday, July 5, 2002 9:57 AM

Well let me throw in my two cents. I for one would not prefer HW build a steel coaster or add a drop ride in unless they can do it without marring their perfect (for me) feel of an old fashioned park.

Now, about adding ANOTHER CCI... hmm.. that's just dreamy. ;)

Brian, who is amazed that he would ever want a park to stay away from steel... well... there IS Howler! ;)

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Friday, July 5, 2002 9:57 AM
As far as where a coaster could fit. I think a mouse would look swell in the area between Raven and Legend, behind the high dive show.
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Friday, July 5, 2002 10:01 AM

Brian, while I agree that ANOTHER perfectly-running CCI would be great, how is Hammersly gonna keep up with all that maintenance?...j/k, he seems to be doing just fine, thanks.....and even with one good arm, I'd take him over anyone doing maintenance at ANY other park....

bill, who thinks any addition to HW will remain in character, and will be great fun...:)

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