When will we see something at Morey's Piers?

Sunday, December 9, 2001 2:40 PM
I know it has been only 2 years since they got the "big bad RC-48", but I think moreys needs something new for 2002. If they had room (which I'm sure they could find), a possibility could be a vekoma flyer, because of Moreys relationship with Vekoma. On the other hand, theres a Vekoma flyer about 70 miles away at SFA. If Morgan was called, however, I'm sure they could whip up something similar to the Santa Monica West Coaster, but a little more thrilling. We'll just have to accept whatever they put in, coaster or no coaster. Moreys also has most major flat rides, except a huss frisbee, so they might not get flat rides. 
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How much more floorless can they get?
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Sunday, December 9, 2001 5:43 PM
I heard they would be getting a tilt coaster.
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Sunday, December 9, 2001 6:23 PM
I think that a tilt coaster would be sweet at Morey's.  IMO a tilt is kinda like a novelty that would fit in great at Morey's.  It's flashy and built by Vekoma, so their is hope for one, eventually.  A tilt coaster would be sweet.
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Philly is gonna get rocked. Can't wait.
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Monday, December 10, 2001 6:01 AM
I would love to see a flying coaster on one of the piers... I can just imagine how thrilling it would be to fly over one of the piers.  The endless sea of lights and rides would create an assault on the senses that would be unmatched...

*** This post was edited by Rob Ascough on 12/10/2001. ***

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Monday, December 10, 2001 10:20 AM
Its too bad Agent Johnson isn't on the boards anymore, he'd  undoubtedly know the answer to this question. 

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Just wait till next year!

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Monday, December 10, 2001 10:35 AM
Agent Johnson is on the boards, just busy at his new park. As for the "Big Bad RC-48", it is great ride, and does just that. While I understand you may be a Great Adventure fan, remember that ALL 89 Moreys Piers Rides operate when the piers are open, not like maybe 45 of 65 rides at Great Adventure. I don't think they give discounts on admissions when dozens of rides are down, or when 1 train is operating on a coaster.

Anyway, no coasters are planned this season coming up. Expansion plans are in the works for foodservice and waterparks. Both areas are badly needed to improve customer service, areas which GA has a ways to go, though they are improving slowly.

The Flying Coaster was dicussed years ago, but the capacity problem that has plagued PGA was an issue. As for the 'Tilt', well, independents are shying away from prototypes for econonical reasons, and it proved to be a good one for the Moreys, since Vekoma went bankrupt this summer, and a new ride would be standing and unoperating. Just like the Super Boomerangs that stood all over the country this summer that had to opened by Premier Rides.

The Moreys are concentrating on the resort aspect of their operations, like Cedar Point chose to do years back, and look how they have grown in the last 10-15 years. The location of the piers on the beach with the oceanfront waterparks are probably reason enough to visit, let alone four piers with more rides in the world than any other park.

We all know that they are one hyper and one signature looping coaster away from ruling the east coast, but for now they manage an island empire quite well.

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Monday, December 10, 2001 10:37 AM

Agent Johnson said:

 Just like the Super Boomerangs that stood all over the country this summer that had to opened by Premier Rides.


Could you please explain this Agent Johnson.  Did Premeir have anything to do with getting the Deja Vus up and running?  If so, I've never heard of it before.

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Monday, December 10, 2001 11:51 AM
Agent Johnson, I was in no way dumping Moreys Piers. I love it, and it has always been a great mini-vacation for me. I admit the customer service wasnt that great, but it was still decent. I remember when I lost a ticketbook of the GNE, and the customer service desk gave me a VIP book, with 10 free rides on any ride I wanted.
As for the RC-48, it is trash. You might as well have Derek Jeter hit you in the knees with a bat then ride that thing.
Also, every time i've been to the piers (which is about 20 time), there was at least 3 or 4 rides that wer'nt operating. I know that the Storm was experiencing problems, as was the Zoom Flume, Rollies Coaster, Inverter, Maelstorm, and GNE (only once for GNE).  
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How much more floorless can they get?

*** This post was edited by GreatAdventureAddict on 12/10/2001. ***

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Monday, December 10, 2001 1:43 PM
I agree the RC-48 is a piece of crap...They should have saved that money and put it towards another woody, good sitdown looper, or restoring The Gold Nugget Mine Ride.

I hope they get a new coaster of some type soon. I love Wildwood. I'll go even if they don't get a new coaster. It's just a great place to visit.

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Monday, December 10, 2001 2:06 PM
See I told ya Agent Johnson would know ;)
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Just wait till next year!
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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:14 AM
Hey, I agree, the RC-48 is a bit on the rough side. Sort of like Scott Toilet Paper. Rough and tough, and doesn't take s*$% of nobody. Its improving, though. But it is still a great ride packed in its footprint.
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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:59 AM
Personally, I miss the Jet Star.  Agent Johnson, any idea what happened to that ride, why it was removed?  Is it still in storage, or sold to another park?
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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:31 AM
The Jet Star arrived in the US in 1973, and operated at Coney Island, and was located on the Bowery.(Independent Midway). It was purchased and moved to Knoebels in 1976, and operated there until 1993. Moreys purchased the ride in 1994, and dismantled it and totally rehabed the ride, which re-debuted in August of 1995. It was sold (by me) through ITAL International to a French park chain. I forget his name, but he owns 3 small family parks. It was sold in 1999, and reopened in late summer of 2000.

Moreys totally rehabed the track in 1999, and added a computer system in 1997 that allowed for block brakes that were automatic and such allowed the operators to spend more time on loading and unloading the rides in a safe manor.

That ride was in great shape, as all Schwartzkopf rides are engineered top notch, and man, do they last.

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:58 AM
I rode the Jet Star when it was at Knoebels and then when it went to Wildwood, it was always an incredible ride.  While I'm saddened that it has left the country, I am happy to hear that it is thrilling riders somewhere else (opposed to sitting in a field somewhere).  Agent Johnson, I don't suppose that you had the task of finding a buyer for the Seaside Heights (Casino Pier) Jet Star as well?

Since you know more about Wildwood amusements than anyone else I know, perhaps you would know if Morey's Piers has a boneyard of sorts (obviously not near the boardwalk, but perhaps further inland?).  I remember the piers having two Zyklon coasters, amongst other rides... do they still exist in storage, or were they sold as well?

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:34 PM
The Jet Star at Casino Pier was scrapped in November of 2000. Sad part about it was the fact that a new Miler Coaster never was produced, due to some problems in California. Casino Pier promised it, but they never received it, and they removed their Jet Star in hopes of receiving their ride on time, unlike the Miler Mouse that came late in 1998.

Moreys has a bone yard, or several. They have battery kiddie boats(2), giant inflatables(2), dark ride scenery, about half a dozen skill games, a Zamperala Brooklyn Bridge, two more Zamperala rides, the SBNO Golden Nugget, the SBNO Intamin River Rapids Ride, and other assorted ride sections and parts.

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:25 PM
Come to think of it, "when will we see something?", well here is a chronology of Morey's coasters in the past few years. I think they have done their share lately.
1994-Schwartzcopft Jet Star added to Moreys Pier, replacing Pinfari Zyclon.
1995-Vekoma Great NorEaster built on Moreys Pier.
1996-CCI Great White built on Wild Wheels Pier. New shoulder restraints placed on Vekoma Great NorEaster.
1997-Zierer Flitzer entirely rebuilt from ground up, total rehab.
1998-Zamperala Doo Whopper built on Wild Wheels Pier. Vekoma Great NorEaster rehab, including paint job.
1999-Pinfari Zyclon built on Mariners Landing, replacing existing Pinfari Zyclon. Vekoma Sea Serpent entirely rehabed including new train, wields, paint, and computer.
2000-Pinfari RC-48 built on Moreys Pier, replacing Schwartzkopft Jet Star.
I don't think that is bad for an independent.

*** This post was edited by Agent Johnson on 12/11/2001. ***

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:33 PM
I agree, Morey's Piers has an excellent record for adding new rides.  The Great Nor'easter was a fantastic addition in 1995, and the addition of the Great White just one year later completely blew me away!  Despite some of the negative things said about the ride, I feel it is one of the better wooden coasters out there... it definitely ranks new the top of my list!

One of the things that amazes me about Morey's is that they are always refurbishing their older rides instead of simply tossing them aside for newer ones (when possible, I assume).  Most parks would have scrapped their Flitzer years ago, instead Morey's Piers decided to rebuilt it and keep it running.  The mix of old and new rides is just one of the MANY things I admire about the piers.

That is truly sad news to hear that the Casino Pier Jet Star was scrapped.  I guess not all Schwarzkopf coasters can be so fortunate to keep on finding new homes?  Any news regarding the future of the Golden Nugget, or is that due to join the Seaside Heights Jet Star in the "coaster afterlife"?

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Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:08 AM
The Golden Nugget is listed as SBNO at the moment. It is not hurting anything now. There are no plans as of today to remove the ride. The Moreys have been approached by several parties on purchasing the Coaster itself, minus the building. The building needs alot of work, as it is over 40 years old. Moreys are looking into proposals of different uses of the building, with or without the ride inside.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:21 PM
Not to mention, but the Flitzer ALWAYS has a long line. I'm guessing becasue of the small size and the number of children that come and go near the coaster.

I thnk (if they wanted to) moreys could definetly build something behind the go karts on Wild Wheels. Even though its all sand, they could pull what they did with the great white. If they didnt want to do that, use the back off by the great nor'easter, theyve got lots of open boards to build something small, yet thrilling.

Hey agent Johnson, didnt the GNE have its shoulder harnesses replaced because it was like killing riders? I've seen pics of the old harnesses, and they look somewhat like a B&M harness but more bulky (absolutly No padding). Also, I heard someone was killed on the GNE is that true?? 

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How much more floorless can they get?

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Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:51 PM
The GNE was outfitted with new harnesses in spring of 1996, due to the number of complaints received in 1995. As you know it is taller (115ft.), and faster (65mph) than the standard inverted, therefore, it added more intensity to the riders. They have done the job, added to a outstanding job by maintenece on keeping the trains in mint condition so the ride is as smooth as it can be.
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