What's with the B&M flying coaster's first drops?

What do these brakes do in case of roll backs? I was thinking they were trim brakes seeing as there is one at the bottom of the first hill and one at the bottom of drop that goes under the brake run. I thought they were put there just incase the ride was to intense.  If they weren't designed to have one they wouldn't have any place to add a trim because the ride would have no straight sections. They probably won't be on, but I'm pretty sure they are trims. 
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Jeff's avatar
What do they do in case of rollbacks? Stop the train! What else would they do?

They are not used to trim.

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Thanks for spelling it out, Jeff.  

If it rolled back, do you think the park would want it going back and forth in the valley for a long time, or stop so they could fix it. (Especially if there were people on board!)  I remember reading in an ACE mag... someone wrote an article about riding the OD Hopkins looper in Texas back when it was testing, and had a roll back.  They said the 20-30 minutes before it finally stopped were pretty unpleasant.

Wildfire has a similar trim brake just before the cobra roll and it is indeed used on a regular basis. I have photos of it on my Yahoo Briefcase:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/cgodsey/vwp?.dir=/Silver+Dollar+City&.dnm=Trim+Brake.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/cgodsey/lst%3f%26.dir=/Silver%2bDollar%2bCity%26.src=bc%26.view=l

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http://www.meritusllc.com/RMU/new2002/hhtour/mvc016s.jpg

I'd be willing to bet money that the brake on the track coming up from underneath the brake run is a trim. There is no way it could valley in that spot, because the change in elevation from the drop out of the PL is so great compared to that of the right turn after the bottom of that drop.

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look at that pic again, it could easily do it there, cause the next turn is high banked, which u cant see in that pic

Jeff said: They are not used to trim.

Boy, it looks like you may have to trademark that one.  It seems to need repeating a lot like "CP doesn't have a space problem"
Folks, why would they purposely trim the bottom of the first drop?  It doesn't make sense. (Other than for rollback purposes!) Any trims on first drops are up at the top, because that's what they are used to do...trim! For example, Mantis, Mean Streak, Excalibur, and so on...)

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