What's this about Hulk having a rollback?

I completely missed out on this newsbite if it happened? Can anyone shed some light on this?
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If you didn't hear any news about it, it probably wasn't newsworthy. Probably just a routine malfunction that happens on coasters all of the time.

My point wasn't whether or not it was newsworthy as far as media attention. I'm well aware that it wasn't a big deal, and I'm also aware they happen often.

My point was.. when did it happen, and the cause... was it from a launch standpoint, and all that. I care about things on coasters that only 1 out of 20,000 care about, so I'm not worried about the media.

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The way Hulk is, I would expect rollbacks every now and then. It was designed so that all electric motors must fire simulataneously for the launch speed to be there. If they do not all fire at once, the wheels lock up and slowly bring the train back into the station in reverse. This has been reported a few times by people that have witnessed it first hand. It must reach the 40 mph speed for the train to make it through the cobra roll, so the motors must all fire at once.
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Chris Godsey said:
"If they do not all fire at once, the wheels lock up and slowly bring the train back into the station in reverse. This has been reported a few times by people that have witnessed it first hand."

Uhh, what if there is another train in the station those kicker tires in the station and brake runs don't go in reverse unless the mechanics reverse them by switching them under the station/brake run.
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*** This post was edited by Alantis104 on 2/9/2002. ***

Chris Godsey said:
This has been reported a few times by people that have witnessed it first hand.

Considering this was the 1st (maybe the second) rollback in the Hulk's history, I really seriously think that this was never witnessed first hand 'a few times'. I don't know where you get your information from, but I would suggest getting another source.

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Alantis104 said:
Uhh, what if there is another train in the station those kicker tires in the station and brake runs don't go in reverse unless the mechanics reverse them by switching them under the station/brake run.
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The second train doesn't move out of the brake run until the train in front of it has been launched successfully. There is room for it to come back down, just not that much.

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Well if what you stated is true(LOL)then the next train is still in the brake run there would be plenty of room because there would be an empty station. You don't know crap and you contradict yourself in your own post.
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Altlantis, I'm not friends with Chris or anything, But I don't think you know who you are talking to. Ya see his signature? Well let's just say he's playing a major role in developing the roller coasters for that park. This guy is for real. Just ask around, people will tell you that he knows what he is talking about.
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Umm I don't really care who I am talking to. This Chris Godsey character is wrong. The train on the holding brakes moves into the station as soon as the train in front of it clears the station; it does NOT wait for the train in front of it to clear the launch. If it did, capacity would suffer terribly. I hope he learns how to operate a ride effeciently by the time he opens his park. -Allan
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the train can leave the brake run even if the train in front hasn't launched. the second time I rode Hulk, they had three train stackage (with my train in the middle). as soon as the train in front of us was out of the station, we moved in. we were in the station when the train in front of us was launching. I could hear the screams as I unbuclked my belt. I don't doubt that the train may come back down, but if it does it could hit the train in the station. what would be more likely is that it would come to a rest just outside the station with the first couple rows still on the angled portion and the rest on that curve. otherwise, there could be a lot of blocking/capicaty issues.
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Actually, I agree with both of you regarding how they operate Hulk, and it looks like maybe Chris is misinformed. It's just the "You don't know crap" statement that made me want to stick up for Chris.

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I don't think what this guy says has much truth behind it within the last 3 months was he not supposed to host a chat on some web site that was relaunching? If I remember correctly the webmaster did some checking up on him and found out that the things he said about working for Six Flags and Universal were untrue and he just kind of fell off the map so to speak. Also have you heard anything more about this so called park? No? I didn't think so.
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If it can come back down the lifthill...does that mean that the lifthill on Hulk doesn't have anti-rollbacks?

I don't know much about the coaster at besides the company it was built by, layout, speed, height and the basics but I thought all coaster have anti-rollbacks on the lift.

The reason I don't think it wouldn't is what if the tires stopped working all together and it started going backwards...there would be nothing to stop it.

I don't doubt Chris at all...just adding my $.02.

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Chris,

I was at IOA on Saturday. The train I was riding in was stopped in the brakes after the final turn. The coaster was running with three trains.

Having said that, one train was in the station, another train was in the brakes behind it (the one I was riding in), and one train was stopped right before the launch area of the lift. The park had to evacuate all trains including the train on the lift. Since I was riding in the back row, and my train was stopped in the brakes after the curve, my row could not be evacuated until maintence could manually release our train a small bit at a time so we were able to get acess to the catwalk. I found it pretty neat actually.

So, while I don't doubt where you got your info from, it is very possible to have one train in the station, as well as one train inside the lift tunnel as I witnessed on Saturday morning.

-Sean

You know, I think Cbuzzers might actually ride coasters too much as a collective. I mean, look at all these *eyewitness* accounts we get on 'slight' ride malfunctions.

You've got Sean's post above on Hulk.
Me being on H:XLC when it rolled back.
Jeff being on S:ROS when the chain snapped.
A host of folks watching the Millie rollback.
blah, blah, blah...
jeremy

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When I was at IoA last month, Hulk "missed a launch" to quote the rideop at the gate. I think the "rollback" people are talking about may not really be a true rollback, but rather a set-up that happens when a launch doesn't get timed correctly.

I certainly CAN believe they happen, though.

(And I agree with Jeremy that the Coasterbuzz community sure does manage to see a large share of such incidents ;) )

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2Hostyl said:
You know, I think Cbuzzers might actually ride coasters too much as a collective. I mean, look at all these *eyewitness* accounts we get on 'slight' ride malfunctions.
You've got Sean's post above on Hulk.
Me being on H:XLC when it rolled back.
Jeff being on S:ROS when the chain snapped.
A host of folks watching the Millie rollback.
blah, blah, blah...
jeremy

I also witnessed a train on wildfire slide right through the Station after a nice cold rain. That was pretty weird to see first hand.