What's the point of single train operation?

Friday, October 6, 2006 1:29 AM
Well thanks for that Gonch, and I agree.

Honestly, if Six Flags charged $40 to get into the park, while charging $10 per ride I'd have little issue with it. ($15 for parking is a bit much) The business end of it may sound stupid, but at least its up front and ethically sound.

For me it just sucks watching people cut ahead, and it sucks worse cutting ahead based on some finacial advantage. I am well aware of the have and have not realities of the world, it's just that parks aren't places where I need to have that reality rubbed in my face everytime I wait in line. Its about having fun, right?

I fit this in because I really do believe parks that use some sort of Q-Bot don't run rides efficiantly because there is no longer a financial incentive to do so. He asked the question so I gave my opinion. And from a business perspective I agree with RavenTTD that Q-Bots are a big mistake. In the long run those parks are going to loose their fan base because most agree poorly run rides and poorly run parks suck.

And no, I don't know how to make the smiley faces you guys are using... *** Edited 10/6/2006 5:37:30 AM UTC by rc-madness***

Friday, October 6, 2006 2:09 AM
Lord Gonchar's avatar Yeah, but if anything this thread has thrown the 'capacity conspiracy' right out the window.

All parks are guilty of running at less than capacity at some times and it almost always has to do with money. (wear and tear, staffing, associated operational costs)

If there's any chain out there that needs to worry about money, it's Six Flags. :)

Let's wait and see what Dollywood does once they make the jump to using the Q-bots on rides instead of just shows...or until SF gets their operations up to par.

(but I'm betting on Dollywood happening first)

Friday, October 6, 2006 1:42 PM
^That may be true Gonch but let's keep in mind that paramount parks had a system similar to q-bot & they have since gotten rid of it at their parks while SF insists on keeping it.

If you make the wait in the normal queue longer by running only one train then that action serves as the incentive to the guest to buy the fastlane passes as a means of by passing the line it's as simple as that.

Friday, October 6, 2006 2:50 PM
Something tells me Lord Gonchar was at HW last season pitching his park of doom. ;)
Friday, October 6, 2006 3:16 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar LOL :)

At least RCT is teaching the kids of the world something.

Saturday, October 7, 2006 4:22 AM
If you pretend like Deja Vu doesn't exist, SFOG is pretty good at ride ops and it's a Q-bot park. Neither time I went this year had 1-train ops on much of anything save Ninja, and it was going out half-empty anyway because it's the Ninja. Granted I go on off days, never Saturdays, but I never waited longer than 45 mins for Goliath except at close. So maybe it's coincidence that some Q-Bot parks have crummy ops.

As for my opinion, I hate 1-train ops with a passion. I have an hour and 45 min of my life - BORG opening year at Carowinds - that I want back. *** Edited 10/7/2006 8:23:41 AM UTC by Vincent Greene***

Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:05 AM
Just because people dont want to pay for qbots does not mean they stink.

Disneys fast pass has a limit too. On some of the popular rides when their are emh if you are not their for them you might find no more fast passes left.

Disneys has no ride problems with this kind of system.

Saturday, October 7, 2006 10:49 PM
As long as Disney's Fast Pass is free, the parks don't profit from poorly run rides. Disney is the king of ride efficiency, and Six Flags is about the worse. Not saying fees determine how well the rides run, it just shows the focus of the park and what's important to them. Disney seems tuned in to rider capacity minute by minute while Six Flags seems willing to set aside the issue.

It takes staff and money to adjust to shifting demands for rider capacity, and Six Flags doesn't have it. All I'm saying is SF can't afford to focus on ride efficency as much as other parks which is why Q-Bots makes sense for them. Parks offering ways to pay for shorter lines is a symptom of poorly run rides, and poorly run parks. Such services aren't neccessary in parks that run well. *** Edited 10/8/2006 3:25:31 AM UTC by rc-madness***

Sunday, October 8, 2006 12:31 PM
To answer the question posed in the title of the thread.

...So they can actually have the most popular coaster at SFStL open at least for Fright Fest

Sunday, October 8, 2006 10:04 PM

Ride of Steel said:As far as I'm concerned there should be multiple train operation at ALL times unless there are absolutely no people in the station and trains are being sent out with barely anyone in them or there are maintenance issues.

You just answered you're own question my friend. These are the most common reason for a park to run single train op.

GL ride host 2001-2003, Rides Superviser 2004-05

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