What is a 4D roller coaster?

Friday, June 15, 2001 10:19 AM
I keep hearing references to a 4D roller coaster. What is a 4D roller coaster?
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Friday, June 15, 2001 10:26 AM
A coaster were the seat are on the outside of the train and the seats spin vertically around!

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Friday, June 15, 2001 10:55 AM
Do you mean like in the spinning rct cars, or the other way, like a clock?

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Friday, June 15, 2001 11:22 AM
4d = "4th Dimension", as in Arrow's new type of coaster.

Like a clock. The trains are 20 feet wide, weighing 5 tons each. The axles spin freely, like the wheel of a car. So given that no one is the same, you will naver experience the same ride twice. It is one of the coolest types of coasters now.

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Let the bears pay the Bear Tax, I pay the Homer Tax.
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Friday, June 15, 2001 11:28 AM
I hope whoever started this thread is joking...Unless youv'e been hiding in a cave for the past few months, or a complete newbie to the roller coaster scene, a 4D coaster is one that spins on a Z- Axis. If any of you are in geometry, alg2, or calc. you know what I am talking about. A typical roller coaster will move on the X and Y axis.X axis being a horizontal motion and Y being a vertical motion, The roller coaster X will spin on the Z axis, which is used to (in math) graph in a 3D plane, so the ride X will spin riders head over heels, flowing in a natural motion with the ride, making it smooth and enjoyable, not sickening.. :)

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Mindbender...Can you hear the Riddler chuckling?
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Friday, June 15, 2001 11:32 AM
But the 4D runs on a fourth dimension, doesn't it? Wouldnt that mean that there is a fourth axis?

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Let the bears pay the Bear Tax, I pay the Homer Tax.
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Friday, June 15, 2001 11:35 AM
It doesn't mean there is a fourth axis. That would be a time axis. I think it'll be the day I die there will be a true 4th dimention (time traveling) coaster. Technically, the way it rotates, it should be called the Arrow 3D.

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Friday, June 15, 2001 12:06 PM
You must eat 4 foods that begin with the letter "D" before riding this coaster.

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Friday, June 15, 2001 12:20 PM
It wont spin free. The 3rd and 4th rails controlls the spinning.
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Friday, June 15, 2001 12:36 PM
Olov..yes we know...there are 2 sets of rails, the riding rails and the control rails for spinning...The train's seats will move in a motion that is cohesive to the movement of the ride itself, you will fall with the train, not against it...

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Mindbender...Can you hear the Riddler chuckling?
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Friday, June 15, 2001 12:39 PM
Does anyone here understand anything I'm explaining? :) If you al are still in school..what grade are you in?

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Mindbender...Can you hear the Riddler chuckling?
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Friday, June 15, 2001 12:53 PM
I was hoping that one day we would see a 4-D coaster. I remember the first time I rode Chaos at CP I wondered if it was possible to built a coaster with the same concept, and Arrow gave me my answer.
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Friday, June 15, 2001 1:03 PM
MindBender, you and I are among the privileged few for whom mathematical concepts come easy...for some, they can't easily grasp the concept of an X, Y, and Z axis, and some people honestly don't obsessively click on CB for their first site of the day like you or me, so I think you should just lighten up a bit.

Now, for the benefit of anyone who is confused, I'll try to put it into simplistic perspective: Imagine you're riding in a coaster train, but instead of the rails being directly beneath you, you're out to the side, with just a large, seatless train riding directly on top of the rails. Now, besides the regular movements of the rollercoaster as you know it, imagine that the train can roll on another axis, one that would run from your left hip through to your right hip, so that the train can pitch its way into a forward 360º roll or a backward 360º. This is the Arrow 4D coaster.

And yes, all rolling is controlled by a separate set of rails, so technically each ride IS the same. I hope this has cleared up any confusion because I'm only here to help. :-)

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Friday, June 15, 2001 1:03 PM
All you have to do is go to the Six Flags Magic Mountain website and check out the animation!

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Friday, June 15, 2001 1:11 PM
Or go to www.arrowdynamics.com to see an actual test run of the 4D train in their facility... I smell another Arrow flop on the way!

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Friday, June 15, 2001 1:18 PM
Davie the luv monkey..you are right..Sorry to anyone who I might have pissed off....But yes..The 4D is pure math... :)

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Mindbender...Can you hear the Riddler chuckling?
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Friday, June 15, 2001 2:36 PM
Flop? Probably not. Looks like a lot of fun. I hope they designed some air in it. That would put it over the top...getting air while upside down that is!

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Forget about it. It can't be THAT bad!
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Friday, June 15, 2001 3:39 PM
You can almost bet this ride is already going to be a maintenance nightmare... I can just imagine the other problems :)

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Friday, June 15, 2001 5:03 PM
Well...it is true that many prototype coasters tend to encounter a lot of maintenance problems. Stealth broke down each time I got into line last time I was at PGA (4 times! and I ended up skipping it). Let's just hope that with all the hype, they'll anticipate these types of problems at devote adequate manpower to keep her running smoothly.

I have been delaying my annual SFMM trip for the opening. I sure hope Murphy doesn't rear his ugly head the day I finally go.
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Forget about it. It can't be THAT bad!
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Friday, June 15, 2001 5:18 PM
Another Arrow flop with a 88.5 degree drop? Hey, I'm all game for that! ;)
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