What if Deja Vu's Cable Snapped?

Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:38 PM
What will happen if the cable snap[s on deja Vu will people die or is it incased in something.
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:44 PM
nobody would die, it would just go through the station and not go fast enough and valley or something
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:12 PM
It would be almost the same situation as if Milennium Force's cable were to snap, nothing major. The trains would either return to the station or valley after the cobra roll, or the vertical loop, whichever one.
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:26 PM
then we would have a problem

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Chris

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:28 PM
I know absolutely nothing about the design of Deja Vu, but aren't there large sets of brakes located at specific locations throughout the ride?  I am assuming that these brakes turn on and off whenever a train passes through one othe towers successfully.  Or, the brakes turn on when the train doesn't enter the next tower, so that way the train does't valley forever.  SEE THE SIG.
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:42 PM
Yes Craig....nothing major would happen if a cable snapped on Deja Vu...unless of course the cable came whipping at a person or crowd of people.  The people on the ride would be find tho.
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:12 PM
One thing that I would be concerned about is the Cart... It would hit the Plunger with a great force and possibly causing damage to the lifting mechanism. Though this wouldn't affect the people too much, if the train was still attached to the lifting mechanism it would stop the train rather violently.
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Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:29 PM
A Cable snapped this summer on the Deja Vu at SFoG.

All that happened was that the lift cart "derailed" and there were some opening delays.  The only truly major thing that happened on it was the some of the padding on the front seat was messed up.  If any invertigo or boomerang had a lift break, it would coast down.  On the case of Deja Vu, there are brakes located at the begining of the Cobra Roll and Loop, this would stop anythign from getting stuck , and cause it to valley into the station.

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 7:11 PM
MFX, that was a rumor... but at least your not saying the extreme version of it, where the thing crashed (and would have killed people if they were on it)

I think, if the cable snapped, not much would happen. The cable would fly up, through the pulley, and onto the spool, probably damaging the lift stuff, but doubtful that it would harm people. I think it wouldn't have enough lenght to reach the ground. If it broke at a point where it already is through the pulley at the top, then I would imagine that the train would roll down into the station or valley between the tower and loop, and the cable would fall to the ground. I'm sure it would be a mess for SFMM, SFoG, or SFGAm, but could be repaired, just like MF was repaired.

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:14 PM
Why even have breaks other than in the station? You can't trim the thing (it just barely goes fast enough to make it through) and the primary breaking is done by the lift on the first tower.. All you need is breaks in the station to stop it after it comes down from the first tower..

Waste of money.. :)

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-Nick Catalano

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:00 PM
The reason there are brakes at the bottom of the loop below the second tower is incase the train misses the catch wagon it will not valley in the middle of the course where the catch wagon cannot come down and retrieve it.  Instead those brakes stop the train(because it would NOT have enough momentum to complete the circuit if it missed the catch wagon, it barely does when it does catch it, lol)  So you see the brakes are needed there as well.  :-)

The brakes before the boomerang below the first tower are not the brakes used to stop the train in the station either...these are simply incase, again, the train misses the catch wagon coming back.  The train is parked in the station via the catch wagon.  It does not use brakes to park.  Hope you understand now.  :-)  As you can see, its not a waste of money!

*** This post was edited by SFGRAMBoy20 on 10/21/2001. ***

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:06 PM

Intaminrocks said:
What will happen if the cable snap[s on deja Vu will people die or is it incased in something.
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Come on now, don't you think that they would have planed cable snaps? Durring mid season I got in a fight with my roomate about the same subject. He said that if the cable snapped on MF that a lot of people would probaly die. I explained to hip the Anit-Rollbacks, he said MF didn't have them that's why it's so quiet when it goes up. Well he felt prety stupid after the cable snaped.

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:07 PM

Intaminrocks said:
What will happen if the cable snap[s on deja Vu will people die or is it incased in something.
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Goliath Laps 150
Collosus 250

Come on now, don't you think that they would have planed cable snaps? Durring mid season I got in a fight with my roomate about the same subject. He said that if the cable snapped on MF that a lot of people would probaly die. I explained to hip the Anti-Rollbacks, he said MF didn't have them that's why it's so quiet when it goes up. Well he felt prety stupid after the cable snaped. Trust me these things are though of.

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VertiCord Crew 2001
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http://www.Cedarpoint.com

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:07 PM
SFGAm's DV was stuck in those breaks this afternoon.  The ride probably ran for a few hours in the morning and about a hour in the afternoon.  It looks like it is having problems catching the second lift.  I guess those breaks stopped the ride before it got stuck in the Boomerang!

I have a thought about why it went so slow going backwards..  The second tower has a shorter drop than the first.  If they made the second tower a little taller, it would have enough speed NOT to crawl through the boomerang.

Just a thought..

 

-Jesse

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:11 PM
Hmmm Jesse...no.  They are both the exact same height.  And obviously if the second tower was built higher it would go faster...that is simple physics.  The ONLY reason everyone *think* it goes slower the second time thru is because you see it go thru the Boomerang SECOND instead of FIRST, and the train doesn't have as much momentum left.  If you watched the train closely go over the loop the FIRST and SECOND time, you'd notice that it  does indeed goes faster on the SECOND time than the FIRST. 

On the first trip the boomerang is faster and the loop is slower...on the second trip the loop is faster and the boomerang is slower.  That is just common sense I would have thought.

*** This post was edited by SFGRAMBoy20 on 10/21/2001. ***

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Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:19 PM
That was my other thought too....  It was just an idea.  I could have watched it more today, but the ride was closed for most of the day.  Next time (next year) i will look at the speeds at specific points in the track.  Thanks.
-Jesse
*** This post was edited by jesbob21 on 10/21/2001. ***

*** This post was edited by jesbob21 on 10/21/2001. ***

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Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:16 AM
I don't think those cables snap often. I've only heard of a cable snapped  once. That was on MF when employees were testing it.    
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Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:57 AM
I believe the cable will snap next year.
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Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:05 PM
Looks like people didnt understand my Q. I no the train would just valley, but I am asking about the cable if it snapped would it kill Deja Vu in genral by taking out all of the support, and wip[ing through the station. or is itincases in something to prevent that, i mean Vekoma did buiild this.
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Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:10 PM
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