What CP DOESN'T need

Friday, January 9, 2004 2:59 PM
People always talk about what CP needs or what it's missing. I'd like to give my own opinion on what CP doesn't need.

Wild mouse (wild cat is just fine), a Flyer (It makes me crazy when I read this comment. " people, these coasters SUCK"). CP doesn't have one doesn't mean CP should own one. No 500ft or above (TDD) is pushing the boundry, no more flats (CP could fill two parks with the amount of rides the park owns), and more drop rides need not apply.

Instead of talking about addition. Let's talk about replacing. My list for what should GO (to be replaced by something modern) DT, MeanStreak, Demon Drop,Corkscrew, and Mantis. *** Edited 1/9/2004 8:06:30 PM UTC by Coaster Bob***

Friday, January 9, 2004 3:15 PM
Right because a Megawoodie that still has it's place, a drop ride that always has a line even though there are 4 larger drop rides in the park, a centerpiece and icon of the main midway, not to mention the "grandfather" of most of the coasters there, and a 1996 vintage (which obviously isn't modern to you?) coaster which while not top tier still ranks up there pretty respectable are just absolutely killing the park. Honestly, I can't for the life of me understand why people still go there when they deface and embarass such entries as Raptor, Magnum, Millennium and Dragster with these pathetic excuses for rides.

#1 - Flyers suck in your opinion. Personally, I love the things, and obviously by the lines, many others do too. Just cause you don't like 'em doesn't mean you should force that opinion on me.

#2 - No drop rides is right, CP already screwed up royally by installing S&S instead of Intamin towers in my opinion, but having both is a mistake.

#3 - Flat rides are what it needs. It could fill two parks with what it owns, but they're for the most part outdated rides, and most of them are kiddieland rides which are identical rides with different molds of fiberglass. Chaos is the only real "flat ride" which stands out as a semi-unique crowd pleaser and that's located someplace most people aren't going to find it.

Two or three large flat rides spread throughout the park in the next year or two will fill out things nicely. The last thing that place needs right now is another coaster. I'd be perfectly content to get rid of the autospiels, get more english-speaking people or at least people who have a working understanding of english in the foodstands and see a few Huss or Mondial giant rides occupy the space of some 1970s outdated ride.

If you can tell me what's more modern than a 1996 B&M Standup be my guest, but until then, keep your list (other than DT - my suggestion on that one? Call up Vekoma and see what kind of ride you can get in DT's building to be as similar as possible to Space Mountain).

Friday, January 9, 2004 3:39 PM
Well Bret, I agree with modern flats (I'll give you that). If Demon Drop went to MA CP could add A huss giant ride in it's place. Corkscrew should leave and be replaced with a mega looper create a new corkscrew element over the midway out or respect for Corkscrew. Mantis needs a new home. Floorless or 4D would fit the space nicely. Send DT away too. it didn't work before and adding an ugly building over the top didn't help either(just ask Dick Kinzel). Mean Streak could stay or go (I enjoy it) but it either needs Intamin to retrack the sucker or send it to another park and replace it with a Gravity Group coaster. Brett your lack of vision is a bit limiting. The park can't keep expanding without replacing. The decision point is drawing near. Maybe you'd like to go to King's Island and ride King Cobra, Galixie,The Bat, and Scream'n Demon. *** Edited 1/9/2004 9:11:55 PM UTC by Coaster Bob***
Friday, January 9, 2004 3:44 PM
I'll tell you what they don't need - people playing park CEO! God, I'm hysterical ;)

Seriously, I agree with the flyer thing, but as Impulse-ive pointed out, that's a matter of personal preference. I guess people like getting into a "doggystyle" position and being flung slowly though what is essentially an uninspired Inverted layout - go figure. If they're going that direction in the future, they better just knock it out of the ballpark. Give us the biggest, fastest flyer with a new element of some kind - think the debut of Raptor.

I totally disagree with the removal of any of those rides you listed, Coaster Bob. From an enthusiast, historic and "what's best for the park" standpoint. Very few parks have the variety of coasters CP has. You could literally start at Jr. Gemini and work your way up with each coaster getting bigger, more intense or offering more. There really is a coaster for everyone at CP - they don't all have to be the biggest, fastest or newest. The closest thing to a coaster I don't like at CP is Mean Streak and I still ride it every year - plus, I think it's one of the most aesthetically pleasing coasters anywhere. Corckscrew is probably going to be at the park a long time - it IS the midway. DT fits into the "well rounded" line-up perfectly. My views on Demon Drop can be found here - summed up with just one sentence even.

Brett nailed it again with the flats. New, updated flats are about the only thing the park is missing. Whether the replace or add - they really do need to get some new flats in there. It seems to be a segment of the market they overlook at times.

I'm not sure CP doesn't need anything. There's always room to improve and any addition would get a ride from me.

Friday, January 9, 2004 3:59 PM
#1 - Flyers suck in your opinion. Personally, I love the things, and obviously by the lines, many others do too. Just cause you don't like 'em doesn't mean you should force that opinion on me.

I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone. That's why I highlighted "my" in my post. We all have a right to our own opinion it's America remember.

The last thing that place needs right now is another coaster.

Cedar Point is the Coaster Capital Of The World not the Ohio state fair.

Friday, January 9, 2004 4:30 PM
I definately agree that new flats are in order, but i also enjoy older versions as well. Who wouldn't want a whip or Bayern Curve around? The more flats the better i say. They suck people off the midway and offer stuff for younger crowds and non-coaster types.

I also don't think any coaster should be removed. And i would say add more. The one and onlt thing i would think to raze would be the Drop. But even that i'm not to strong on.

CP is about rides, the more the better.

Friday, January 9, 2004 4:31 PM
Firstmof all I love mantis It was the coaster thad made whant to become a coaster enthusiest. I have not found another ride that has the same felling as the first loop on mantis. If space is the problem then here is an idea it is a little crazy but it just might work. to the left of the park there is a marina if they close in the northern section and filled it in thats a bit of land. If you take out calypso and buid a bridge over the road it could create some space.
Friday, January 9, 2004 4:32 PM
They need to change the name of the park to Mooshland!
Friday, January 9, 2004 4:35 PM
That's **EXACTLY** what they **DON'T** need to do Moosh. ;)
Friday, January 9, 2004 4:38 PM
If they took out all the older rides, It would be taking out most of the great atmosphere of the park, and making it into a crappy SFMMish park. I think that the park is great how it is.
Friday, January 9, 2004 4:45 PM
I'll tell you what Cedar Point doesn't need:

An Advisory Board.

Friday, January 9, 2004 4:48 PM
It already has CP removed both dark rides, Aquairium, Jungle Larry's Safari, Fun House, Kid Arthur's Court, Schwabichin,
Friday, January 9, 2004 4:52 PM
This is really another wish list which I generally don't allow in the first place (except it is the off-season). One thread will do...

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