What coaster would YOU retrack/redo???

Friday, November 2, 2001 8:13 AM
Hey all,
with the success of Phantom's Revenge, and some of the other refresh jobs lately, I got an interesting discussion idea.

If you could pick one coaster, keeping it's layout, profile, height, length, location, etc. the same and retrack it / redo it as a differnt style of coaster, what would you like to see???

Here's my top three.

1. I would LOVE to see Drachen Fire-BGW as a B&M sit-down. Return the first corkscrew and smooth it out a little. What a ride that would be!!!

2. Revoultion-SFMM as a Vekoma Flying Dutchman. Imagine lots of flight time through the trees and doin' the loop for the entering audience.

3. Gemini-CP as a full wood-tracked racer

Tell me your ideas!!!!

Later,
V

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Friday, November 2, 2001 8:59 AM

Mean Streak.  Bring it back to it's opening season splendor

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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:08 AM
CPLady is right on the money!
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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:26 AM
Dorney Park's Hercules:

Everyone complains about the trim on the top of the first drop and roughness. I say let the guys at GCI have a whack at it. Retrack the whole thing, and reprofile the turn around over the lake. As neat as it is to take that turn just above the lake surface, the speed after that drop (which has been slowed down by the trim) I think is what causes even more rough ness. Replace that turn around over the lake with a nice fan turn (I think that it is what it is called, similar to the first turn aroundon Hersheypark's Lightning Racer and first turn on SFA's Roar). Wouldn't this cut down the speed in the turn, but yet let the train pick up speed to make it back up over the hill side and through the rest of the ride course. Wouldn't this allow you to handle the turn around at a higher speed and thus remove the need for the trim on the first drop. This reprofiling of the turn around and complete retracking could make this a much better coaster than it is now (and, contrary to what many others think, I don't think it is exactly as terrible as many say).

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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:29 AM
Call Intamin, remove the loop from SFMM's Revolution and make it a terrain mini-hyper ala PR.  I know the loop is historical, so what, the ride sucks and no one is riding it.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:39 AM
No brakes on Mean Streak.

Call in GCI to re-track the entirety of Rolling thunder and put some Millennium Flyer trains on it...top 2 wooden right there!

Take brakes out on Hercules

All TOGO's (NOGO) to become no more

and finally

Grizzly at PGA re-done.

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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:46 AM
Retrack SFNE's Cyclone. It needs it bad.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 9:52 AM
Mean Streak and Drachen Fire would be the two I'd most like to see redone.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:04 AM
Definantly Mean Streak and I'm not sure if this would be retracking but...  I would add onto Mantis making it 6 more inversions and make it then have floorless trains.  I could only dream though....sigh.  Ohh yeah, also remove the trim on the fist drop on Mantis.

*** This post was edited by Mr. Ego on 11/2/2001. ***

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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:21 AM
  The trim on the first drop of Mantis is needed because it slows the speed down (making the inversions much more comforting).  Also at Cedar Point I would like to see absolutely anything done with the Mean Streak.  Maybe some new trains (they really hurt to bang against the sides.......which leads to a possible retracking of the ride!).  And as others have said, Drachen Fire.  It is due for something, but I don't think as elaborate as some suggest. 
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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:22 AM
Ever Dinn coaster should be redone like one of my faves, RWB. I love the ride! (and the wait ;) )

I would also love it is the Conneaut Blue Streak gave some more airtime.

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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:28 AM
American Eagle at SFGRAM needs it really bad on the red side right before the helix. It's awful.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:35 AM
Mean Streak. That used to be an intense ride the first year or two. But now it has brakes because of roughness; sometimes I wonder if it is going to make it over the next hill. Something has to be done about it. It's a sleeping giant that needs to be woken up. I just wish CP would read some of these posts and consider retracking it, or whatever it takes to bring it back to the raging monster it once was.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 10:36 AM
Mantis and MeanStreak need a change.  I would love to ride floorless on Mantis.  Standing-up HURTS!  Remove the trims on both as well! 
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Friday, November 2, 2001 11:03 AM
The steel kiddie coaster at Williamsgrove (Mechanicsburg PA)....

First, I would replace the small lift hill with one around 200ft.

Second, I would extend the length of track to around 5,000 feet with a large second hill, a helix turn around, and a series of very large bunny hops back to the station.

Third, I would have Morgan do the trains.

Fourth, I would paint the supports steel grey and the track red.

Fifth, I would change the name to something like "Steel Force".

Not a bad upgrade for a kiddie coaster and a perfect companion for their old Cyclone and used but-new-to-them Wildcat.

(Hey... it COULD happen. Its just as plausable as the other's on this wish list... including my previous Hercules suggestions)

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"I wasn't always this cynical, but then I started kindergarden..."

*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 11/2/2001. ***

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Friday, November 2, 2001 11:03 AM
Also, remove the trims on the Helix on the American Eagle too..:)

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Friday, November 2, 2001 11:35 AM
They should put new trains on Iron Dragon at Cedar Point.  They could be inverted coaster trains, but ones that sway like the current Iron Dragon trains.  It would be cool to fly through the trees and over the lagoon with your legs dangling out of the train.  The excitement as you legs nearly miss tree limbs and the surface of the water would be excellent.

*** This post was edited by Junior on 11/2/2001. ***

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Friday, November 2, 2001 12:15 PM
Gotta re-do Mean Streak...  A great coaster gone wrong......
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Friday, November 2, 2001 12:22 PM
DWeaver, fnally I have to disagree with you about Revolution. Not so much about redoing it, because that IS a great idea. But if it were redone, there MUST be a loop in the precise spot that the existing loop stands. It is probably the single most recognizable landmark of the park. You dont see ANY of the coaster except the loop sticking out from behing the trees. Classic! But by all means, do SOMETHING with the darn thing. I only ride it if newbies are with me and only in the front few rows because it is so jerky.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 12:22 PM
Mean Streak and the side that hasnt been retracked on American Eagle. The side that has been redone kicked butt this summer.

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